2024 United States Grand Prix - COTA, Oct 18-20

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Re: 2024 United States Grand Prix - COTA, Oct 18-20

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epo wrote:
20 Oct 2024, 22:41
miguelalvesreis wrote:
20 Oct 2024, 22:40
Norris should have cleared 5s from Verstapen! Just because

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Not really, better car yes but worse driver. Max beats them all pure talent.
The pure talent has gone 9 races winless in car fast enough to win and can only stay ahead by doing dodgy maneuvers and pushing everyone off the track! Wow what a proud moment to be a Verstapen fan…

If that was the 2008 FIA-Hamilton relationship…Verstapen would have been banned for life! :lol:
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What a nonsense decision by the stewards. If max had stayed on track then the penalty would be clear cut.

1. Max was off track himself.

2. The only reason max was ahead at the apex was because he came off the brakes and consequently drove himself off the track.


All judgements like this do is encourage drivers to be able to run each other off the track which ruins races.

Congratulations to Ferrari and Charles!

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Weird decision, but I guess Norris should have given it back immediately and Verstappen might have been given a 5 second penalty for forcing him off the track.

Wonder if he could still get that 5 second penalty? Could they still investigate that now?

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Looks like George and Toto dont agree with the penalty :lol:


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It was a risky move of Lando, also his defense right after, you know when you overtake outside of the track you are at risk, you also know what Verstappen will do. It was a last resort kind of move, sometimes it works out, sometimes it doesn't.

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DDopey wrote:
20 Oct 2024, 22:44
Spacepace wrote:
20 Oct 2024, 22:42
Didn't Verstappen also gain an advantage by going wide?
He was already ahead so no.
He never made the corner

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Not saying this sport is becoming biased, but there's a clear pattern of the rules favoring one particular driver for the past years - Max. Even in this race, first corner, similar situation, no penalty for Max for passing Lando outside of the track, but there is a penalty for Lando for doing that. Makes you not even want to watch this sport anymore. Just give the guy the championship already. No point wasting our time having to watch something so one sided.

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Was a very good battle. Max defensive driving was brilliant. Lando kept the pressure on well. The only thing is don't sure Lando did much to catch Max by surprise. Watching the replay of the pass, though both went off but not if Lando was ever making the corner either.

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AMG.Tzan wrote:
20 Oct 2024, 22:44
epo wrote:
20 Oct 2024, 22:41
miguelalvesreis wrote:
20 Oct 2024, 22:40
Norris should have cleared 5s from Verstapen! Just because

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Not really, better car yes but worse driver. Max beats them all pure talent.
The pure talent has gone 9 races winless in car fast enough to win and can only stay ahead by doing dodgy maneuvers and pushing everyone off the track! Wow what a proud moment to be a Verstapen fan…

If that was the 2008 FIA-Hamilton relationship…Verstapen would have been banned for life! :lol:
It's no small feat to be leading the championship by miles while driving the third fastest car. Unprecedented really

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RonMexico wrote:
20 Oct 2024, 22:46
AMG.Tzan wrote:
20 Oct 2024, 22:44
epo wrote:
20 Oct 2024, 22:41


Not really, better car yes but worse driver. Max beats them all pure talent.
The pure talent has gone 9 races winless in car fast enough to win and can only stay ahead by doing dodgy maneuvers and pushing everyone off the track! Wow what a proud moment to be a Verstapen fan…

If that was the 2008 FIA-Hamilton relationship…Verstapen would have been banned for life! :lol:
It's no small feat to be leading the championship by miles while driving the third fastest car. Unprecedented really
It helps a lot when you have the stewards advantaging you and let you do shady moves on track. He's a great driver, but very unfair racer. Always been, always will be.

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DDopey wrote:
20 Oct 2024, 22:44
Spacepace wrote:
20 Oct 2024, 22:42
Didn't Verstappen also gain an advantage by going wide?
He was already ahead so no.
He was ahead because he sent the car up the inside with such speed that he forced Lando off, who had the right to space on track. Can’t believe how they can rule like they do here. It ruins racing.

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madsonit wrote:
20 Oct 2024, 22:49
RonMexico wrote:
20 Oct 2024, 22:46
AMG.Tzan wrote:
20 Oct 2024, 22:44

The pure talent has gone 9 races winless in car fast enough to win and can only stay ahead by doing dodgy maneuvers and pushing everyone off the track! Wow what a proud moment to be a Verstapen fan…

If that was the 2008 FIA-Hamilton relationship…Verstapen would have been banned for life! :lol:
It's no small feat to be leading the championship by miles while driving the third fastest car. Unprecedented really
It helps a lot when you have the stewards advantaging you and let you do shady moves on track. He's a great driver, but very unfair racer. Always been, always will be.
He put on a defensive clinic today, textbook driving with a large pace and tyre disadvantage

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RonMexico wrote:
20 Oct 2024, 22:44
morefirejules08 wrote:
20 Oct 2024, 22:43
So you can now while defending, go into a corner too fast, run wide, drive your opponent off the track and they get the penalty?
Overtaking off the track has always been a penalty
Norris was deliberately shoved off the track by Verstappen who also went off. Not exactly the first time he’s got away his with defend or die attitude either

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RonMexico wrote:
20 Oct 2024, 22:50
madsonit wrote:
20 Oct 2024, 22:49
RonMexico wrote:
20 Oct 2024, 22:46

It's no small feat to be leading the championship by miles while driving the third fastest car. Unprecedented really
It helps a lot when you have the stewards advantaging you and let you do shady moves on track. He's a great driver, but very unfair racer. Always been, always will be.
He put on a defensive clinic today, textbook driving with a large pace and tyre disadvantage
Sure, but also gaining a big advantage first corner by going off the track and getting no penalty for it, while his rival got the penalty for it by being forced off the track while passing. Verstappen is a great driver, but let's not deny the reality, he's disrespectful on track and stewards apply rules differently for him. It's a sad time for F1.

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morefirejules08 wrote:
20 Oct 2024, 22:51
RonMexico wrote:
20 Oct 2024, 22:44
morefirejules08 wrote:
20 Oct 2024, 22:43
So you can now while defending, go into a corner too fast, run wide, drive your opponent off the track and they get the penalty?
Overtaking off the track has always been a penalty
Norris was deliberately shoved off the track by Verstappen who also went off. Not exactly the first time he’s got away his with defend or die attitude either
Did Norris attempt to make the corner? He went extremely deep while divebombing, that had to have been a big factor in the stewards decision. They have access to the telemetry