2024 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

[Just_a_fan]

Isack Hadjar to run Perez's car in FP1

Really? And they choose a weekend of a new upgrade to do this?

And a weekend that is quite likely to see a damp/wet FP1...current forecast isn't great for Friday morning.

[Sergej]

According to formu1a.com, upgrades include floor and diffuser.

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According to formu1a.com, upgrades include floor and diffuser.

Makes sense. They haven't changed the diffuser and tunnels since launch spec afaik

[Sergej]

"Floor body" and "floor edge" were part of Imola upgrade, let's see which part they will modify this time.

[Wouter]

And this is the first regulation change with the budget cap in place. The starting conditions were never as equal as right now.

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No there was a cap in '21 going into '22

For most of the teams, anyway...
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(hint to the easily offended: the laughing emojis indicate a joke)

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Haha, your jokes are always so funny with a serious undertone. .

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Red Bull has prepared a significant update for the RB20 for the British round, which will include the floor and diffuser , among other components .

Over the course of the season, Red Bull's advantage over the competition has shrunk significantly, from four tenths over Ferrari in Sakhir and Jeddah to just under a tenth over McLaren in Spielberg. The RB20, however, appears to have made progress in the fast sections, and maintains an advantage in the slow sections and with open DRS over the competition, which made Austria a perfect stage for the characteristics of the Milton Keynes car. According to what formu1a.uno has learned, Pierre Wache's engineers will introduce a significant package of developments that will also involve the macro components of the floor and diffuser of the RB20 .

On the flying lap the advantage in terms of Power Unit that Verstappen enjoys with the Honda engine could make the difference.

https://formu1a.uno/it/gp-inghilterra-r ... ulla-rb20/

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Anyway Austria was a false dawn. The upgrades may help a lot in terms of McLaren fight but suspension problems affecting curbstrikes, correlation with simulator and the fuel burnoff pace change still are fundmental issues. And decisions about the rb21 will be made in the background whilst the team are still searching for answers for these . Worrying times

And before it's mentioned the flexi-wing won't solve anything major. That's more of an extra to help balance the car.

Om autosport forum a RB employee alludes to the issue affecting rb20 when asked. They say it's not the suspension itself but something the suspension has an effect on

[Paa]

. And decisions about the rb21 will be made in the background whilst the team are still searching for answers for these . Worrying times

It is also possible that they have a good understanding of the problem and possible solutions/compromises for next year, just struggling to overcome it within the frames of RB20.

[AR3-GP]

Anyway Austria was a false dawn. The upgrades may help a lot in terms of McLaren fight but suspension problems affecting curbstrikes, correlation with simulator and the fuel burnoff pace change still are fundmental issues. And decisions about the rb21 will be made in the background whilst the team are still searching for answers for these . Worrying times

And before it's mentioned the flexi-wing won't solve anything major. That's more of an extra to help balance the car.

Om autosport forum a RB employee alludes to the issue affecting rb20 when asked. They say it's not the suspension itself but something the suspension has an effect on

They are competitive currently. I wouldn't call Austria a false dawn. As you said on the previous page, it showed that the performance ceiling is high. They didn't have such a qualifying margin in the previous races. Now they have to refine the car. The RB21 will be the first real attempt to cure the weaknesses of the RB20 and there's no reason to think the problems are insurmountable.

Verstappen has been much less vocal about performance in the last week.

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. And decisions about the rb21 will be made in the background whilst the team are still searching for answers for these . Worrying times

It is also possible that they have a good understanding of the problem and possible solutions/compromises for next year, just struggling to overcome it within the frames of RB20.

Possible but I think it remains ongoing problem solving / searching for solution

And to AR3GP:
I'm not suggesting insurmountable problems but if the solutions are found too late you can't introduce them on the launch spec, and you can end up bringing them at race 5 already too far down in the championship to fight. See McLaren.

Yes the car is still very competitive and the aero itself is phenomenal but every race is undermined by the suspension characteristics at this point

Verstappen actually said the car felt terrible in the race after stint 1 and they have to look into why and understand.





Well on autosport forum the RB mechanic says they think they fixed the problem but only running on the track will tell the truth. a lot to look forward to

[Paa]

Verstappen actually said the car felt terrible in the race after stint 1 and they have to look into why and understand.

BTW, I would love to hear more about the issues they had during the race. I think it was overlooked during the Norris fallback stuff.
At some earlier stages they discussed something about Gear 7, I think? I didn't understood correctly from the broadcast.
But it doesn't suggest suspension stuff, nor general balance issues?

And then they also discussed some other weird settings. Would be nice to get the radio transcript try to work it out what was going on.

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Verstappen actually said the car felt terrible in the race after stint 1 and they have to look into why and understand.

BTW, I would love to hear more about the issues they had during the race. I think it was overlooked during the Norris fallback stuff.
At some earlier stages they discussed something about Gear 7, I think? I didn't understood correctly from the broadcast.
But it doesn't suggest suspension stuff, nor general balance issues?

And then they also discussed some other weird settings. Would be nice to get the radio transcript try to work it out what was going on.

My interpretation of the gear stuff was about charging his battery. As gear 7 has higher rpm and would charge up the battery faster. So running gear 7 giving up top speed but more regeneration was faster than staying at gear 8

Well on autosport forum the RB mechanic says they think they fixed the problem but only running on the track will tell the truth. a lot to look forward to

Potentially some inboard changes to the suspension for Silverstone?

FIA delegates having a close look on Thursday in this area

[Sergej]

Van Haren confirms a new floor among the upgrades.

[Wouter]

Nice to hear what these great guys have to say. Max:



Lando. Video starts with Lando talking:

[Rikhart]

Anyway Austria was a false dawn. The upgrades may help a lot in terms of McLaren fight but suspension problems affecting curbstrikes, correlation with simulator and the fuel burnoff pace change still are fundmental issues. And decisions about the rb21 will be made in the background whilst the team are still searching for answers for these . Worrying times

And before it's mentioned the flexi-wing won't solve anything major. That's more of an extra to help balance the car.

Om autosport forum a RB employee alludes to the issue affecting rb20 when asked. They say it's not the suspension itself but something the suspension has an effect on

A flexier wing will bring a good 1 tenth alone, if not more. The effects it brings is insane, just look at what it did for Mclaren and Mercedes.