Jenson Button has masterfully driven to his first win of the year, his first for McLaren. In the early stages he switched tyres at the right time while he succesfully nursed his option tyres to the end of the race. Robert Kubica is a happy second for Renault, followed by Felipe Massa.
I think it will be interesting to see how the car works on a high downforce circuit. We were given the impression they just came with the wrong package for Bahrain rather than them being unable to get performance, however it may be that the car does not perform on that sort of circuit. We will see. Perhaps it is simply that the performance advantage of the stalled wing is reduced on such circuits?
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Tim.Wright wrote:Just a thought on the red bull ride height subject.
If the pushrods contained a spring/damper with extremely high rebound damping at certain parts of the stroke, then after one lap the downforce would push the car down and the rebound damping would keep it there. That would explain why it creeps up very high in parc ferme.
This also would work like a ratchet which Whitmarsh has suggested RB might be using.
To make the car run at different heights from saturday to sunday, I think it would need to be adjustable by a driver or someone else.
Tim
no not at all it could be a bleed and a one way check valve .to get it down quicker a blow off could be used (would need you to really drive hard over the curbs to get the blow off into action ...but these are things we all have seen years ago (supertouring in BTCC for example) .as soon as you know the maximum force will be you can adjust the blow off accordingly to drop the car for qualy by going hard over the curbs.
the system can be designed for not blowing(the shimstack) off with full tank avoiding the high curbs...and you bleed the car down with a small orifice over the race distance..so both worlds are satisfied.
towards the last few laps when hammi caught up with nando... i remember nando's race engineer telling him that hammi is right behind and the reply was too good.. i dont want to know abt it .... seems like he was upset with his team.. and mark just spoilt the whole closing battle... webbers race was total ---.. and he keeps telling other drivers to drive with sense when did not show any sense...
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To all forum participants : Who do you think drove the best race today!!
In my view, Alonso's was probably the most steller drive of all today. He made a poor start and had an unfortunate incident immediately after; But his race after the safety car period was outstanding.
He overtook the back markers easily, without wasting much time (unlike Schumacher in his Mercedes). He didn't do anything fancy after he climbed upto the top ten.
He (and his team) then went ahead with a very tricky tyre strategy. But credits to him, he looked after the tyres very well and drove a very sensible race, much unlike Massa.
Massa looked in awful shape in the last 3rd of the race. He was slipping and sliding and was all over the place. Whereas, Alonso looked very much in control; He had the same pace as Massa, if not more. After he climbed up to behind Massa, he drove very sensibly, didn't try too hard to attack Massa, kept just behind him all the way, making sure he ended the race in good shape as far as the tyres are conserned, and at the same time was ready to take advantage if Massa made a mistake.
But, his defence against Hamilton was superb. When Hamilton caught up with him, he was gaining more than a second a lap on Alonso. Inspite of that Alonso managed to defend his position and did it masterfully. =D> =D> =D>
Raftaar wrote:To all forum participants : Who do you think drove the best race today!!
In my view, Alonso's was probably the most steller drive of all today. He made a poor start and had an unfortunate incident immediately after; But his race after the safety car period was outstanding.
He overtook the back markers easily, without wasting much time (unlike Schumacher in his Mercedes). He didn't do anything fancy after he climbed upto the top ten.
He (and his team) then went ahead with a very tricky tyre strategy. But credits to him, he looked after the tyres very well and drove a very sensible race, much unlike Massa.
Massa looked in awful shape in the last 3rd of the race. He was slipping and sliding and was all over the place. Whereas, Alonso looked very much in control; He had the same pace as Massa, if not more. After he climbed up to behind Massa, he drove very sensibly, didn't try too hard to attack Massa, kept just behind him all the way, making sure he ended the race in good shape as far as the tyres are conserned, and at the same time was ready to take advantage if Massa made a mistake.
But, his defence against Hamilton was superb. When Hamilton caught up with him, he was gaining more than a second a lap on Alonso. Inspite of that Alonso managed to defend his position and did it masterfully. =D> =D> =D>
Hmm, he made a bad start then passed some back markers and then did nothing, how is that a steller drive?
I agree, LH was superb today.
Hey! Com'on "dave34m". He practically drove 4/5th of the race on one set of soft tyres, inspite of that at the very end frustated a much faster car (with a much newer set of tyres), and finished ahead.
It is probably not unfair to say, Massa has Alonso to thank for his podium place, had Alonso not kept Hamilton at bay, I don't think Massa would have been able to defend his place, as awful as he was on the degrading tyres.
Driver Of The Day: Jenson Button - His metronome drive is perfect for theese rules.
Overtake Of the Day: Boy Racer on Britney
Underlying performance: Kubica to P2 & Chandhok to finish the race. Also Alguersuari learning from her Schumaker.
Idiot of the day: Webbers overtake attempt on Boy Racer and the guy that called Boy Racer in.
Call of the day: Jenson calling for the slicks, when was the last time a driver dictated his own strategy???
Could Do Better: Virgin again, not only revealing their fuel tank catastrophie, but their cars pulling out again with problems.
Technical highlights:
Engines at the start of the event:
01 McLaren Mercedes Jenson Button 1
02 McLaren Mercedes Lewis Hamilton 1
03 Mercedes Benz Michael Schumacher 1
04 Mercedes Benz Nico Rosberg 1
05 RBR Renault Sebastian Vettel 1
06 RBR Renault Mark Webber 1
07 Ferrari Felipe Massa 2
08 Ferrari Fernando Alonso 2
09 Williams Cosworth Rubens Barrichello 1
10 Williams Cosworth Nico Hülkenberg 1
11 Renault Robert Kubica 1
12 Renault Vitaly Pertrov 1
14 Force India Mercedes Adrian Sutil 1
15 Force India Mercedes Vitantonio Liuzzi 1
16 STR Ferrari Sébastien Buemi 1
17 STR Ferrari Jaime Alguersuari 1
18 Lotus Cosworth Jarno Trulli 1
19 Lotus Cosworth Heikki Kovalainen 1
20 HRT Cosworth Karun Chandhok 1
21 HRT Cosworth Bruno Senna 1
22 BMW Sauber Ferrari Pedro De La Rosa 1
23 BMW Sauber Ferrari Kamui Kobayashi 1
24 Virgin Cosworth Timo Glock 1
25 Virgin Cosworth Lucas Di Grassi 1
During the event:
New engines: Senna, Button, Hamilton, Schumacher, Rosberg, Vettel, Massa, Alonso, Sutil, Liuzzi, Buemi, Alguersuari, Trulli, Kovalainen, Di Grassi.
New Gearboxes: Buemi, Chandhok, Senna, De La Rosa, Kobiyashai, Glock, Di Grassi.
All top 10 Q3 guys used the option tyre for Q3.
Reason that Virgin started from the pots was so they could install and use a different fuel tank with a different capasity.
Raftaar wrote:Hey! Com'on "dave34m". He practically drove 4/5th of the race on one set of soft tyres, inspite of that at the very end frustated a much faster car (with a much newer set of tyres), and finished ahead.
It is probably not unfair to say, Massa has Alonso to thank for his podium place, had Alonso not kept Hamilton at bay, I don't think Massa would have been able to defend his place, as awful as he was on the degrading tyres.
Maybe but it wasnt a steller drive, Brdigestone had already said that the softs would last the entire race, didnt the top 4 all drive most of the race on softs. I just think Button and Hamliton drove great races today. If Alonso had passed more at the front of the field them maybe I'd agree
the reliability issue seems to be a front wheel not properly attached due to Sebs and laudas 8after asking Marko)comment in German TV ....the front left tyre was not attached satisfactory..and came loose ..vettel was already going slow to go into the pits to try and fix the wheel correctly ,but he did not make it back...
so car design weakness combined with wheel mounting process not perfected ..still no sub 3 sec pit stops.. maybe they are too ambitious there.
the drama concentrates on Seb ...but Webbo is unable at this time to bag the win second time in a row without having tech trouble...double pity for redbull.
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