Spanish GP 2012 - Barcelona

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What aggravates me is the complete inconsistency in judgement over cases by the FIA. Rosberg almost caused 2 high speed accidents in Bahrain and got away absolutely scot free. Button with low fuel recently, scot free.

However, whenever there is anything to answer with Hamilton, he is penalised. And the severity of the punishment goes against any previous levels. 5 places? 10 places? Nope. The back of the grid. Unbelievable. It is very clear there someone in the FIA has a serious vendetta against the guy.

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absbeginner wrote: Someone probably should ask them if they are happy for gaining a position.
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absbeginner wrote:Alonso, Raikkonen, Rosberg and Schumacher are going to get the surprise of starting from the dirty side of the track.
Someone probably should ask them if they are happy for gaining a position.
Alonso started on the dirty side last year from 4th, but was 1st before T1.
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absbeginner wrote:Alonso, Raikkonen, Rosberg and Schumacher are going to get the surprise of starting from the dirty side of the track.
Someone probably should ask them if they are happy for gaining a position.
Last year, Alonso started on the 'dirty side of the track' in P4. He jumped to P1 before the first corner:D
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what the hell is this now? they dsq hamilton, but they don't those who actually WIN race and don't pit after the race (e.g. Vettel)???

Not fair if u ask me. Big bullshit, BIG!

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Random thought... Hamilton's first lap in Q3 would have been sufficient for P6 on the grid, clearly he didn't return to the pits and give the stewards their sample of fuel then... Was this lap invalid? Clearly the answer is no, as we've seen drivers qualify based on their first run in Q3 before. How is this situation any different from a driver doing 1 Q3 run, and then deciding that that's enough, and taking the car down to the stewards then?

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this is ridiculously stupid for Mclaren, every race so far they always been able to find something new to screw up its drivers.

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Joie de vivre wrote:what the hell is this now? they dsq hamilton, but they don't those who actually WIN race and don't pit after the race (e.g. Vettel)???

Not fair if u ask me. Big bullshit, BIG!
If you mean that the same rule should apply for after a race, then i agree. If you need to return after q3 with your own power, you should return to the pits after a race

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gibells wrote:What aggravates me is the complete inconsistency in judgement over cases by the FIA. Rosberg almost caused 2 high speed accidents in Bahrain and got away absolutely scot free. Button with low fuel recently, scot free.

However, whenever there is anything to answer with Hamilton, he is penalised. And the severity of the punishment goes against any previous levels. 5 places? 10 places? Nope. The back of the grid. Unbelievable. It is very clear there someone in the FIA has a serious vendetta against the guy.
I think after Canada 2010 the rules were adjusted and for the knowing people they should be quite clear. No conspiracy this time, again.
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astracrazy wrote:=D> well done mclaren. 5 weekends out of 5 you've screwed your drivers - don't be surprised if hamilton leaves them at the end of this year =D>

edit: how come a torro rosso driver didn't get dq'd in bahrain for not going to the weigh bridge as requested? i know its not the same, but its not far from the same issue

I think that the penalty it's not directly related to the fault but more to the fact that macca box lied trying to confuse reality....they said that hamilton was stopped for a technical problem...

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FrukostScones wrote:
astracrazy wrote:
stefan_ wrote:I just realised that Malder will be on pole. May god, jesus christ and all the saints have mercy, it's going to be an interesting start.
it will be like when hulk was on pole, he will move backwards very quickly
why, was it raining today? do you know his race speed?
never mind on times, his top speed (maldonado) was 10 km/h slower then lotus. if maldonado or alonso in first 3 laps dont go over 1 sec ahead of both lotus, i can only say bye bye mclarens, red bulls, and mercedes.

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FrukostScones wrote:
gibells wrote:What aggravates me is the complete inconsistency in judgement over cases by the FIA. Rosberg almost caused 2 high speed accidents in Bahrain and got away absolutely scot free. Button with low fuel recently, scot free.

However, whenever there is anything to answer with Hamilton, he is penalised. And the severity of the punishment goes against any previous levels. 5 places? 10 places? Nope. The back of the grid. Unbelievable. It is very clear there someone in the FIA has a serious vendetta against the guy.
I think after Canada 2010 the rules were adjusted and for the knowing people they should be quite clear. No conspiracy this time, again.
So why not for Button earlier this year?

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It's rainning now on Montmelo!

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Joie de vivre wrote:what the hell is this now? they dsq hamilton, but they don't those who actually WIN race and don't pit after the race (e.g. Vettel)???

Not fair if u ask me. Big bullshit, BIG!
Just made same comment to @MBrundleF1!!
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beelsebob wrote:Random thought... Hamilton's first lap in Q3 would have been sufficient for P6 on the grid, clearly he didn't return to the pits and give the stewards their sample of fuel then... Was this lap invalid? Clearly the answer is no, as we've seen drivers qualify based on their first run in Q3 before. How is this situation any different from a driver doing 1 Q3 run, and then deciding that that's enough, and taking the car down to the stewards then?
that's a very good point.

I wanna know what the difference between hamilton and Kobayashi is.
Kobayashi didn't return to the pits after q2 so he just starts 10th (they use q2 time). hamilton doesn't return to the pits after q3 but he is dq'd....

whats the difference...

edit: i've just realised he had a fault. my bad.
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