2015 United States Grand Prix - Austin, October 23 - 25

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alvinkhorfire wrote:Toto Wolff had a smug, just after Rosberg made a mistake at the end of the race, allowing Hamilton to win the race.

All the while, it appears that Hamilton is the preferred driver for Toto Wolff and Niki Lauda. Sigh. :?
Well of course, he's now a three time world champion, and frankly, he's better.

Why on earth would Nico be the favourite?

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Sorry, but Rosberg has been a crybaby all along. You are driving in the big league with the big guys. If you are mentally not strong enough, then that's that. If you focus on stuff that don't matter, then you're not really focused on the job either. Like when he was complaining Kvyat was rejoining dangerously back on track. Mate, he's behind you. What does it matter? He could be easily the fastest man on track, but then he made an error and Hamilton made the most out of that. Lewis was composed and did the best he could. If the WDC just gets thrown into his lap, then he should grab it with both hands, which he did.

Congrats Lewis on the 3rd WDC! Fully deserved.
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ME4ME wrote:
turbof1 wrote:In all honesty, Rosberg deserved to win this race.
He would have if he hadn't thrown it away.

Great race! Super performances by a lot of drivers: Vettel, Verstappen, Rosberg, Hamilton, Sainz, Button, Perez, Rossi
Well he screwed up, that is true. But let's be honest: Hamilton would have overtaken Rosberg anyway with the fresher tyres. All a consequence of the safety cars. Let's remain honest about that. Hamilton deserves the title, but he had a lot of luck winning this race.
#AeroFrodo

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I missed the whole thing :(

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turbof1 wrote:
ME4ME wrote:
turbof1 wrote:In all honesty, Rosberg deserved to win this race.
He would have if he hadn't thrown it away.

Great race! Super performances by a lot of drivers: Vettel, Verstappen, Rosberg, Hamilton, Sainz, Button, Perez, Rossi
Well he screwed up, that is true. But let's be honest: Hamilton would have overtaken Rosberg anyway with the fresher tyres. All a consequence of the safety cars. Let's remain honest about that. Hamilton deserves the title, but he had a lot of luck winning this race.
But then it's also an asset to be able to capitalise on the circumstances that present themselves, particularly in changeable conditions. Lewis did, Nico didn't, essentially.

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ScottB wrote:
alvinkhorfire wrote:Toto Wolff had a smug, just after Rosberg made a mistake at the end of the race, allowing Hamilton to win the race.

All the while, it appears that Hamilton is the preferred driver for Toto Wolff and Niki Lauda. Sigh. :?
Well of course, he's now a three time world champion, and frankly, he's better.

Why on earth would Nico be the favourite?
I get your point, and I admit that Hamilton is the better driver. However, Toto Wolff and Niki Lauda should be impartial towards both drivers.

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I do not deny, Lewis' got the mentioned qualitities. But this race he got lucky with Kvyat's crash.

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alvinkhorfire wrote:
ScottB wrote:
alvinkhorfire wrote:Toto Wolff had a smug, just after Rosberg made a mistake at the end of the race, allowing Hamilton to win the race.

All the while, it appears that Hamilton is the preferred driver for Toto Wolff and Niki Lauda. Sigh. :?
Well of course, he's now a three time world champion, and frankly, he's better.

Why on earth would Nico be the favourite?
I get your point, and I admit that Hamilton is the better driver. However, Toto Wolff and Niki Lauda should be impartial towards both drivers.
I noticed them shaking their heads certainly, as well they might.

I don't see what reaction you'd rather have seen, as surely anything other than a blank expression would suggest favouritism by that measure?

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CBeck113 wrote:Rosberg is just being an a$$ - what a poor loser
In all honesty, Rosberg deserved to win this race. He had every bit of advantage he had, first the 10s and then the better pit strategy, erased by the safety cars. He would not have won the championship, but we must remain fair and if he did not have bad luck would have won this race.
if he hadn't made a mistake and gone off track he would probably have won.

afaiu he now has the records for most poles with out a championship

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ScottB wrote:
But then it's also an asset to be able to capitalise on the circumstances that present themselves, particularly in changeable conditions. Lewis did, Nico didn't, essentially.
Next time someone is coming around and telling me you make your own luck :P. Those are nice little sayings and they hold truth, but is it that wrong to feel for Rosberg who had bad luck last race and again this race?
NL_Fer wrote:I do not deny, Lewis' got the mentioned qualitities. But this race he got lucky with Kvyat's crash.
Yes exactly, it came at the perfect time (I'm not insinuating any crash gates!).
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turbof1 wrote:
CBeck113 wrote:Rosberg is just being an a$$ - what a poor loser
In all honesty, Rosberg deserved to win this race. He had every bit of advantage he had, first the 10s and then the better pit strategy, erased by the safety cars. He would not have won the championship, but we must remain fair and if he did not have bad luck would have won this race.
if he hadn't made a mistake and gone off track he would probably have won.

afaiu he now has the records for most poles with out a championship
He wouldn't have. Hamilton had the better pace at that moment due fresher tyres. He would have gone past Rosberg anyway. I agree Rosberg made Hamilton life easier and has himself to blame for that, but you can agree with me that without the 2 safety cars Rosberg would have won.
#AeroFrodo

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Jonnycraig wrote: Gene Haas was interviewed by Sky yesterday and said he was excited to see how Ferrari got on as the engine this week would to all intents and purposes be the one starting 2016.

Do you really believe that?
AFAIK they've spent 4 tokens on this last iteration and the still have a whole bunch of tokens and changes that they can implement for the 2016 engine!
Homologation date is February 2016!?
And you think neither of them will improve their engines? Or just Ferrari?
Do you really believe that???

WOW! :shock: :shock: :D :D :D

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माकडाच्या हाती कोलीत

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turbof1 wrote:
ME4ME wrote:
turbof1 wrote:In all honesty, Rosberg deserved to win this race.
He would have if he hadn't thrown it away.

Great race! Super performances by a lot of drivers: Vettel, Verstappen, Rosberg, Hamilton, Sainz, Button, Perez, Rossi
Well he screwed up, that is true. But let's be honest: Hamilton would have overtaken Rosberg anyway with the fresher tyres. All a consequence of the safety cars. Let's remain honest about that. Hamilton deserves the title, but he had a lot of luck winning this race.
To be fair both had their share of mixed fortunes. It was Rosbergs luck that the track didn't dry out one lap earlier. But anyway to have luck you first have to keep out of trouble and be there at the right place at the right time. That's what Hamilton did.

By the way stellar job from both Sainz and Verstappen. I think both have deserved a seat at a top team.
Hulkenberg really fell through for me. too many mistakes at critical moments.

And of course McLaren finally showing some signs of competitiveness.

Easily the best race of the season.

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I feel for Rosberg, though.

Hamilton deserves the title, but man, it must suck to be ROS right now.

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I re-watch the "mistake" of Rosberg but I can't understand what happened honestly maybe like with Raikkonen a lack of smooth suddenly in the power delivery..