Monaco GP 2010 - Monte Carlo

[WhiteBlue]

Yep, overtaking is allowed after SC line but except from the situation

40.13 If the race ends whilst the safety car is deployed it will enter the pit lane at the end of the last lap and the cars will take the chequered flag as normal without overtaking.

Regulations are inconsistent. How the driver is supposed to know if the safety car pulled in because stewards concluded that the track is clear or if it pulled in because of the regulation 40.13 describing the race finished under the SC?

The track was green flagged! And the teams are supposed to tell their drivers what race control emails them.

[djos]

This is exactly my feeling, if MS is punished it was right as it was a SC finish. If he is let off then this is right because the track was decleared clear.

We should wait for the steward decision. This will be the correct answer.

the stewards wont even look at it, the Safety Car lights were off indicating a race restart.

[siskue2005]

This is the moment Alonso crosses the safety car line. Schumi was clearly behind the line. So his pass was legal.

















Schumi crosses the finish line ahead of Alonso.

thanks
and here is the green light flashing in the last corner

case closed

[mx_tifoso]

And what happened with Barrichello after he crashed? I left the tv for a bit and missed that part. Did he really smash his steering wheel on the ground or something like that?

[ecapox]

So we have regulation 40.7 and 40.13

40.7 ...With the following exceptions, overtaking is forbidden until the cars reach the first safety car line after the safety car has returned to the pits. Overtaking will only be permitted under the following circumstances...

40.13 If the race ends whilst the safety car is deployed it will enter the pit lane at the end of the last lap and the cars will take the chequered flag as normal without overtaking.


So we can debate on whether or not the SC entered into the pits because it was the last lap (article 40.13) or because the track was cleared and it was just coming in like it would normally do when the track is cleared.

I believe it was coming in because it was the last lap and that is what it has to do, by the regulations.

[The FOZ]

And what happened with Barrichello after he crashed? I left the tv for a bit and missed that part. Did he really smash his steering wheel on the ground or something like that?

He basically tossed it out of the car...and then someone drove over it. Lousy move on Barrichello's part, IMO.

[ISLAMATRON]

How/when did SV get pass Bob?

1st corner of the race, he got a better start from the clean side of the track.

Thanks,again I say starting 2nd is too much of a penalty, the space between rows should be increased in all fairness.

Huge cockup from McLaren on Buttons car, His season in officially done.

[WhiteBlue]

I get the impression some people here would bend over for MS....

Don't let Alonso hear that! He might take it personal.

[djos]

So we have regulation 40.7 and 40.13

40.7 ...With the following exceptions, overtaking is forbidden until the cars reach the first safety car line after the safety car has returned to the pits. Overtaking will only be permitted under the following circumstances...

40.13 If the race ends whilst the safety car is deployed it will enter the pit lane at the end of the last lap and the cars will take the chequered flag as normal without overtaking.


So we can debate on whether or not the SC entered into the pits because it was the last lap (article 40.13) or because the track was cleared and it was just coming in like it would normally do when the track is cleared.

I believe it was coming in because it was the last lap and that is what it has to do, by the regulations.

There is no debate, the SC lights where off and the track lights where green!!

[The FOZ]

So we can debate on whether or not the SC entered into the pits because it was the last lap (article 40.13) or because the track was cleared and it was just coming in like it would normally do when the track is cleared.

I believe it was coming in because it was the last lap and that is what it has to do, by the regulations.

They shouldn't have put the green light on if the race was meant to end under the safety car. Green light means drivers are free to race.

It's a bit stupid...if the race is meant to end under the SC, then the SC should lead the cars across the finish line!

[raymondu999]

The race didn't end under the safety car and the drivers WERE free to race, as the SC came in JUST BEFORE the race finish.

[toshinden]

if the 40.13 reg is the one which is apply, does the green light should be turn on or not?

[ecapox]

They shouldn't have put the green light on if the race was meant to end under the safety car. Green light means drivers are free to race.

It's a bit stupid...if the race is meant to end under the SC, then the SC should lead the cars across the finish line!

Fair enough, but it all seems somewhat contradictory because the regs say the SC will come in at the end of the last lap even if the race finishes under the SC. it doesnt say that it will lead them over the start/finish line.

Once again the regulation monster clouds things.

[WhiteBlue]

And what happened with Barrichello after he crashed? I left the tv for a bit and missed that part. Did he really smash his steering wheel on the ground or something like that?

IMHO Rubens did a great foul there. Chandhok suffered a tyre blow out I believe. Rubens should be penalized.



Rubens throws the wheel



wheel flies through the air



wheel on the racing line



Chandhok hits the wheel

[roost89]

A step aside from the "debate". I bring you some Joy
On the F1 Forum (BBC) the Red Bull team are dunking themselves in the pool afterward! Mark, backflipping into it. He even took his shoes off before going in Vettel pushing and pulling people in. Even Newey was getting drenched!
Horner is said to have gone in, clothed this time.