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Well you can think what you want but I have no reason to not believe them. They made the point several times on team stream. So it sounded like a pretty epic final runFittingMechanics wrote: ↑05 Sep 2020, 16:04I doubt this is true. Sainz saved a set in Q1, Norris did only an outlap on his second set in Q1, so they both probably had new softs for both runs.101FlyingDutchman wrote: ↑05 Sep 2020, 16:03Used soft for both on the final run according to the mclaren app. Wow!
Sure, but if you follow the team and notice the times they can do on used sets then you know any time they use a used set in Q3, they are half a second or a second slower than with the new tires. This was happening consistently in each race where they were in Q3 with only one set. There is no chance that Sainz improved with a used set and ended up ahead of Verstappen.101FlyingDutchman wrote: ↑05 Sep 2020, 16:08Well you can think what you want but I have no reason to not believe them. They made the point several times on team stream. So it sounded like a pretty epic final run
Does it matter really? The team placed both cars in the second and third row... P3 on merit... The progress that has been made is great!101FlyingDutchman wrote:Well you can think what you want but I have no reason to not believe them. They made the point several times on team stream. So it sounded like a pretty epic final runFittingMechanics wrote: ↑05 Sep 2020, 16:04I doubt this is true. Sainz saved a set in Q1, Norris did only an outlap on his second set in Q1, so they both probably had new softs for both runs.101FlyingDutchman wrote: ↑05 Sep 2020, 16:03Used soft for both on the final run according to the mclaren app. Wow!
They probably weren’t using the Max Qualy mode in those first runs in the past, no point since they were already using used tires... So the jump in performance was mostly due to engine mode rather than tires (not saying that the tires don’t play a role)... In addition, with so few corners at Monza, the loss of performance from the tires shouldn’t be as bigFittingMechanics wrote:Sure, but if you follow the team and notice the times they can do on used sets then you know any time they use a used set in Q3, they are half a second or a second slower than with the new tires. This was happening consistently in each race where they were in Q3 with only one set. There is no chance that Sainz improved with a used set and ended up ahead of Verstappen.101FlyingDutchman wrote: ↑05 Sep 2020, 16:08Well you can think what you want but I have no reason to not believe them. They made the point several times on team stream. So it sounded like a pretty epic final run
Norris just said on Sky he was on tires with one outlap on them. So it is almost certain that Sainz was on new tires as he did not come out for a second run in Q1. Doesn't matter though.SmallSoldier wrote: ↑05 Sep 2020, 16:18They probably weren’t using the Max Qualy mode in those first runs in the past, no point since they were already using used tires... So the jump in performance was mostly due to engine mode rather than tires (not saying that the tires don’t play a role)... In addition, with so few corners at Monza, the loss of performance from the tires shouldn’t be as big
Exactly! Although, Monza is a one-off race and we shouldn’t get ahead of ourselves just yet... But... Let’s enjoy this moment! Mclaren on the second and third row, on merit, without penalties to the ones ahead, no changing weather conditions or other external factors is the best performance from the team in ages.FittingMechanics wrote:Norris just said on Sky he was on tires with one outlap on them. So it is almost certain that Sainz was on new tires as he did not come out for a second run in Q1. Doesn't matter though.SmallSoldier wrote: ↑05 Sep 2020, 16:18They probably weren’t using the Max Qualy mode in those first runs in the past, no point since they were already using used tires... So the jump in performance was mostly due to engine mode rather than tires (not saying that the tires don’t play a role)... In addition, with so few corners at Monza, the loss of performance from the tires shouldn’t be as big
McLaren finally has pace to do one run in Q1 so that they can get two runs on new tires in Q3.
One more positive, everyone is starting on the same tires, so no one has an advantage. Same engine modes, same tires, we have to fight for the podium.