2020 Bahrain Grand Prix - Sakhir, Nov 27 - 29

[nzjrs]

Everyone saying "it's luck / unlucky" is so boring.

It's worth remembering that 50 years of continuous safety improvement have made luck the decisive factor in crashes of this severity.

Or put another way, the median crash now is much more normal and safe than any other time in history - thus in extremis luck can dominate the outcome.

[Blackout]

Well, the survival cell thankfully did its job as designed
https://i.imgur.com/b48UyO5.png

The left hand fuel hatch is completely open... could explain the big fire

And part of the rear bulkhead of the cell has been ripped off and stayed on the engine (left hand), exposing the fuel bag
https://motorsport.nextgen-auto.com/pho ... an/056.jpg
https://motorsport.nextgen-auto.com/pho ... an/043.jpg

[Scorpaguy]

I hope the FIA is keeping a close tab on these incidents and analyzing the "what-ifs"...and not simply drinking their pro or con HALO Kool-Aid. Gros was saved by his HALO today...Jules would likely be alive. However, had Stroll's car caught fire today...or Hulk's a bit back, I believe outcomes would have been different...as both were in their cars a good bit more than 20 seconds (albeit Lance was not as incentivized as was Gros...Hulk did fear he was on fire and could not get out).

FIA needs to constantly be evaluating these incidents and analyzing different scenarios to perfect these driver protections. Today, I am grateful Gros is still with us and thank God we had the HALO.

[Wouter]

I am so glad he survived! Nothing broken but many burns.

[nzjrs]

My goodness, catching up with the replay on the F1 app and I'm again reminded that David croft is the most stupid person to ever be in a commentary team.

[hUirEYExbN]

I am so glad he survived! Nothing broken but many burns.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EoBAGCoWEAI ... name=small

I thought he had broken ribs? At least a post earlier on in the thread claimed so.

[Wouter]

I am so glad he survived! Nothing broken but many burns.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EoBAGCoWEAI ... name=small

I thought he had broken ribs? At least a post earlier on in the thread claimed so.

From HAAS Instagram:

All X-rays performed on Grosjean came back clear of fractures.
Updates will be given when further information is available. #HaasF1

[DRCorsa]

What was inside the radiators?? Fuel, oil or both???

Oil and water/coolant

The fuel cell is part of the "chassis" that is what lit off

I don't think there was more than 1 liter of fuel that burned from the fuel cell.
Fuel tank had something like 100lts. It would have been a total disaster.

[ENGINE TUNER]

What was inside the radiators?? Fuel, oil or both???

Oil and water/coolant

The fuel cell is part of the "chassis" that is what lit off

I don't think there was more than 1 liter of fuel that burned from the fuel cell.
Fuel tank had something like 100lts. It would have been a total disaster.

You have the right to think whatever you want, but the reality is that the fuel is what caused that huge fire. Furthermore the cars have the capability of carrying 110kg of fuel on board, and this was the start of a high consumption race and so would therefore be carrying close to that amount of fuel onboard, not 100L as you claim.

[fritticaldi]

For the older fans , this reminded me of the Gerhard Berger crash in the Ferrari at the 1989 San Marino GP. The safety personnel of the CEA that day extinguished the fire in 23 seconds. Just like GrosJean , Berger also suffered burns to his hands.

[ENGINE TUNER]

Could very well have been the case, there was one just behind the tub.

I wonder if the car was cut in half by one of the stanchions. Hitting it in just the right place caused the rrar of the tub to shear off.

Look at the direction the tub is pointing and think of the direction it was traveling in. It hit and the front embedded flinging the back around 180º. It broke because of the bending loads but it might have broken where it did - rather than at the engine mounts - because of the post.

It did break at the engine mounts

[Jolle]

For the older fans , this reminded me of the Gerhard Berger crash in the Ferrari at the 1989 San Marino GP. The safety personnel of the CEA that day extinguished the fire in 23 seconds. Just like GrosJean , Berger also suffered burns to his hands.

I had the same thought. Although Berger was not conscious after the crash due to the high impact. Grosjean’s impact was probably a bit less severe at its peak because of the “breaking trough to the other side”.

Also if a crash is big enough to rupture the fuel tank, you want something like a halo... without and we wouldn’t compared his crash to Berger’s but to Cevert...

[Mansell89]

Incredibly thankful that today we witnessed an escape like we did and not something far worse.

Staggered to see people on this forum in the heat of the moment still more interested in the restart order and who would replace the injured driver for the final two races.

Thank goodness Romain is okay and I hope we learn even more to make things even safer for tomorrow.

[Mogster]

In 20 years of watching F1, i have never seen anything like that
Romain was so lucky he could get out himself out of the car, otherwise I don't think anyone could have gone near the car

Purely for visual impact it’s the worst F1 accident since Berger’s fiery crash at Imola Tamburello 1989.

It’s incredible he wasn’t seriously injured, if he’d been injured he wouldn’t have been able to exit the car. I did think that just prior to Gro’s appearance the medical car driver was planning on entering the fire to try to pull him out. van der Merwe did say they practice “a lot of stuff”, recovering a driver from a burning vehicle through? I suppose he is wearing flameproof gear but the heat would have been immense.

[Jolle]

Oh anybody else thought the reason Grosjean crashed was a classic Grosjean move?