2022 São Paulo Grand Prix - Interlagos, Nov 11 - 13

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Re: 2022 São Paulo Grand Prix - Interlagos, Nov 11 - 13

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organic wrote:
13 Nov 2022, 14:29
I think soft-medium-soft is the right way to go but let's see
You dont know how long of a run Max did on the soft do you? Would be interesting to see how it compared to a less than 20 lap old medium which dropped off in the sprint.

I wonder if it was the tyres from Mexico they used and they finally dropped off :lol: :lol:
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SirBastianVettel wrote:
13 Nov 2022, 12:21
What can Red Bull change to the car after the sprint?

* Front wing angle
* Gurney flaps
* Tire pressures

Anything else?
What's the point of the Parc Fermé anyway? Why not just let them change setup for an hour after qualyfing and/or and hour before.

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chrisc90 wrote:
13 Nov 2022, 14:32
organic wrote:
13 Nov 2022, 14:29
I think soft-medium-soft is the right way to go but let's see
You dont know how long of a run Max did on the soft do you? Would be interesting to see how it compared to a less than 20 lap old medium which dropped off in the sprint.

I wonder if it was the tyres from Mexico they used and they finally dropped off :lol: :lol:
I posted the FP2 longrun yesterday. Verstappen's softs were 3 laps old at the start of it, and his speed dropped by around 2s during the stint. So it didn't look any better

search wrote:
12 Nov 2022, 21:16
Red Bull used the same set of hards yesterday and today, so they still have another new one for tomorrow. Almost no one used new tyres (apart from those not making it any further than Q1).

Perez 10-lap average was 0,4s quicker than Verstappen's on both tyre types. And he went on to do a longer run than VER on softs.

edit: screenshot added (only 8 laps for HAM)

https://i.imgur.com/ggvrgun.png

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organic wrote:
13 Nov 2022, 14:29
I think soft-medium-soft is the right way to go but let's see
I always wonder what's the point of starting with the softer tire when the harder would be more appropriate for the heavier car.

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johnny comelately wrote:
13 Nov 2022, 11:08
mzso wrote:
13 Nov 2022, 10:22
So what did Vettel do? I saw him being stupidly blocked by Stroll in 13th place. But the next I saw him he was three places in front of Stroll.
It wasn't shown on screen was it? The were probably focusing on non-events in the front.
The answer my friend was blowing in the grass...
which by the way is more exciting when on a bike re Randy Mamola at Brands in the TransAtlantic series circa 1980
Ummm, what? What does "blowing" even mean here?

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chrisc90 wrote:
13 Nov 2022, 14:32
organic wrote:
13 Nov 2022, 14:29
I think soft-medium-soft is the right way to go but let's see
You dont know how long of a run Max did on the soft do you? Would be interesting to see how it compared to a less than 20 lap old medium which dropped off in the sprint.

I wonder if it was the tyres from Mexico they used and they finally dropped off :lol: :lol:
He did 10 lap run on a soft that had done some quali sims. Probably a 15 lap total and the tyre dropped about 5 tenths in pace over the 10 lap

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mzso wrote:
13 Nov 2022, 14:46
johnny comelately wrote:
13 Nov 2022, 11:08
mzso wrote:
13 Nov 2022, 10:22
So what did Vettel do? I saw him being stupidly blocked by Stroll in 13th place. But the next I saw him he was three places in front of Stroll.
It wasn't shown on screen was it? The were probably focusing on non-events in the front.
The answer my friend was blowing in the grass...
which by the way is more exciting when on a bike re Randy Mamola at Brands in the TransAtlantic series circa 1980
Ummm, what? What does "blowing" even mean here?
Supercharging of course!
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organic wrote:
13 Nov 2022, 14:48
chrisc90 wrote:
13 Nov 2022, 14:32
organic wrote:
13 Nov 2022, 14:29
I think soft-medium-soft is the right way to go but let's see
You dont know how long of a run Max did on the soft do you? Would be interesting to see how it compared to a less than 20 lap old medium which dropped off in the sprint.

I wonder if it was the tyres from Mexico they used and they finally dropped off :lol: :lol:
He did 10 lap run on a soft that had done some quali sims. Probably a 15 lap total and the tyre dropped about 5 tenths in pace over the 10 lap
Could well be the RB is better suited to the soft than the medium. Seems odd though.
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Which compounds do they have available? I know that for Mexico Pirelli brought 1 step harder this year than they did previously; I wonder if that was in some way related to their options for both CoTA & Brazil as well.

I’m not sure why anyone would go for hards unless temperatures go through the roof (compared with yesterday); if you have the option either soft, medium, soft or medium, medium, soft is surely a quicker option than medium, hard on a track that is essentially ‘green’.
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Stu wrote:
13 Nov 2022, 15:03
Which compounds do they have available? I know that for Mexico Pirelli brought 1 step harder this year than they did previously; I wonder if that was in some way related to their options for both CoTA & Brazil as well.

I’m not sure why anyone would go for hards unless temperatures go through the roof (compared with yesterday); if you have the option either soft, medium, soft or medium, medium, soft is surely a quicker option than medium, hard on a track that is essentially ‘green’.
C2-C4 same as last year

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I think it is forecast to be 2-3c warmer today.
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Looking at the FP2 runs, even Merc had strange deg on the hard tire. Perhaps it really is the case that the C2 and C3 are just bad tires this weekend and such perversities are entirely within the realm of possibilities in this Pirelli era. The only good tire being the softest compound.
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Here's hoping hamilton doesn't jump russell off the line or on the first lap or else this will be a very long and boring race with RB maybe scrapping with ferrari for final podium spot.

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Juzh wrote:
13 Nov 2022, 15:32
Here's hoping hamilton doesn't jump russell off the line or on the first lap or else this will be a very long and boring race with RB maybe scrapping with ferrari for final podium spot.
The race will only be interesting if Verstappen jumps Hamilton. Otherwise I agree that the Mercedes will drive in formation for 71 laps.
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I think the probability of a Mercedes on Mercedes crash is very high. Hamilton will go hard like in Mexico and George won't want to look weak again so won't back down.