2013 Hungarian GP - Hungaroring

[Shrieker]

I think Grosjean was penalised because of being Grosjean, past deeds coming back to bite him in the arse. IIRC, he was on a probation after his race ban last year, can anyone confirm it or remember how long the duration is ?

[Juzh]

Vettel accepts defeat in a very sporting manner. Unlike some others when they have a bad race..

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ozdcee7l7k[/youtube]

[iotar__]

I think Grosjean was penalised because of being Grosjean, past deeds coming back to bite him in the arse. IIRC, he was on a probation after his race ban last year, can anyone confirm it or remember how long the duration is ?

What probation, the one that goes into the next season? And what "probation" logic has anything to do with non-existent penalties applied? He's on "probation" so if anyone will drive into him it's OK, like Rosberg did in India 2012 (or Korea I don't remember). Same with Button, not driving into but he knew what he was doing with both driving and creating drama afterwards. Same with Alonso in Hungary or Webber who was annoyed RG wasn't getting out of the way at the start in Singapore after the ban. They are all saints and not agenda driven.

And which past deeds? TWO, literally two penalties in 2012? Vettel had the same amount in one race in 2010, Spa. Before BS Spa ban ZERO penalties or reprimands. Was Spa also for past deeds? Following that logic Hamilton should get a penalty any time he gets near the other car the whole 2012 season, count his penalties and crashes in 2011, same with Vettel in 2010-2011, or Perez 2012-2013. Alternatively 100% bigger than anyone else for the same transgression, like Monaco. This way they make sure that when you're behind specially protected driver like Alonso (or even Vettel earlier) for 20 laps you won't try anything.

Looking for widely acknowledged logic in F1 is futile, it is run by it's own political one with double standard drivers and stewards, with no accountability. And I thought this is the season they got advised to be lenient and 'promote' racing. Ugh, enough about this bog. Williams scored a point in case someone missed it, danger of being overtaken by Marussia/Caterham after some freaky race is smaller. Pity, it would be funny, help them survive and would piss Ecclestone off =D> . Williams will survive anyway.

[Shrieker]

Calm down dude lol. I agree btw that he shouldn't have been penalised for that overtake. They should have asked him to give back the position. As harsh as it is, rules are rules. He did deserve a penalty for driving into Button however.

[wesley123]

Vettel accepts defeat in a very sporting manner. Unlike some others when they have a bad race..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ozdcee7l7k

He extended his championship lead so it's a good reason to be happy, even when he didnt win the race

[turbof1]

What happened to Rosberg's car? Was it related to the Massa collision?

No. It was Engine Overheating. He just lost positions when made contact with Massa. Nothing to do with the engine.

You could argue that due the accident, Rosberg fell back into the pack, had to run constantly in the hot air of the cars in front which might or might not have contributed to the engine failure.

[turbof1]

Vettel accepts defeat in a very sporting manner. Unlike some others when they have a bad race..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ozdcee7l7k

He extended his championship lead so it's a good reason to be happy, even when he didnt win the race

Vettel never is happy when he is in the position to win a race but ultimately didn't won it. Back in 2011 at Yas Marina he was pretty dissapointed when his car got damaged by a tyre failure which forced him to quit the race, even though he already had the title.
It's just in his nature to be like that. He cares more for winning races then outscoring his opponents. That's ok; he shrugged it off at the podium with a laugh.

[nacho]

Don't know if it's been posted yet...

http://i43.tinypic.com/akh5r6.jpg

I mean come on... In a corner like that? "Racing"

They should put a stone wall behind the white line to stop such criminal activity.

[wesley123]

Vettel accepts defeat in a very sporting manner. Unlike some others when they have a bad race..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ozdcee7l7k

He extended his championship lead so it's a good reason to be happy, even when he didnt win the race

Vettel never is happy when he is in the position to win a race but ultimately didn't won it. Back in 2011 at Yas Marina he was pretty dissapointed when his car got damaged by a tyre failure which forced him to quit the race, even though he already had the title.
It's just in his nature to be like that. He cares more for winning races then outscoring his opponents. That's ok; he shrugged it off at the podium with a laugh.

Lots of difference between DNFing a race where you went good or Extending your Championship lead when going for another championship. I would be quite happy if I took another step to another title even though I did not win the race.

[Huntresa]

When did we stop having "Race Incidents" btw ? Is that lost on the judges these days or ?

[SectorOne]

Vettel accepts defeat in a very sporting manner. Unlike some others when they have a bad race..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ozdcee7l7k

He extended his championship lead so it's a good reason to be happy, even when he didnt win the race

Championship "gap". Hamilton took 7 points of Vettel´s championship lead.

[wesley123]

Nope, he extended his championship lead. Although he lost points to Hamilton and Raikkonen he gained points compared to the second place in the champion. So he extended his lead.

[jamsbong]

Romain Grosjean is getting back to his old self again. Lol. Back in 2009, he showed his speed and was on par with Alonso. I thought then, this kid will be a future star. Now, he is a star but for the wrong reasons... Lol

There were some who thought Kimi in 2012 had similar pace to RG. Now there is no doubt about Kimi's legendary capabilities vs RG mere mortal abilities.

Like Massa, I'm sure RG will be around.

Mercedes is starting to show their true pace. Their quali pace showed that Mercs are the fastest this year. Now, they have worked out how not to overuse the tires. They are going to be tough to beat.

Hamilton really puts Rosberg in his place. Next year, I expect Hami to dominate. Assuming no GF issues of course...lol

[The_Truth]

What happened to Rosberg's car? Was it related to the Massa collision?

No. It was Engine Overheating. He just lost positions when made contact with Massa. Nothing to do with the engine.

You could argue that due the accident, Rosberg fell back into the pack, had to run constantly in the hot air of the cars in front which might or might not have contributed to the engine failure.

I could be possible. We saw many times when Vettel was on a hot pursuit of Raikkonen that he leave some space in order to cool down the engine to prevent a blowout.

Rosberg was running all race long behind another car, so an overheating is on the desk.

[myurr]

Ross Brawn denied that, saying that the temps were fine and there was no warning it was about to go like that. That made them worry about Lewis' car.