2022 Emilia Romagna Grand Prix - Imola, April 22 - 24

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Re: 2022 Emilia Romagna Grand Prix - Imola, April 22 - 24

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Leclerc has to cut these mistakes out. It was silly to risk all for potentially 3 points.

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Re: 2022 Emilia Romagna Grand Prix - Imola, April 22 - 24

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dialtone wrote:
lh13 wrote:
24 Apr 2022, 16:47
dialtone wrote: This very track saw Michael Schumacher behind Alonso for a good chunk of the race in 2005.
Schumacher's teammate wasn't 10 places ahead of him.
and? It doesn't look to be pertinent to the question that was asked
I misunderstood.

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Re: 2022 Emilia Romagna Grand Prix - Imola, April 22 - 24

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Perfect weekend for Max and a very solid one for Perez.
Bringing upgrades to a Sprint weekend was deemed too risky by Ferrari, but it seems to have paid off, they had the pace and it wasn't by a small margin.
Red Bull also might've learned something on how to setup this car in Melbourne.
Now it's up to Ferrari to respond.

The Red Mist caught Charles, he needs to learn fast, he's no longer racing for random good results.
Sainz was an innocent party this time.

Great result for Lando in a rather lonely race.
Good damage limitation for Russell, car didn't have the pace he got what he could.
I was cheering Bottas down the stretch too bad he couldn't pull it off, still very good in these conditions(something he often struggled in his Merc years), despite a terrible stop.
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Re: 2022 Emilia Romagna Grand Prix - Imola, April 22 - 24

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grubschumi13 wrote:
24 Apr 2022, 16:52
PlatinumZealot wrote:
24 Apr 2022, 16:41
grubschumi13 wrote:
24 Apr 2022, 16:40
What can be said about Hamilton. Another poor weekend. That is 2 in 4 races. Had this been 2014-2021 he would have finished 2nd at worst, but now. Even those Brazil like overtakes are gone.
I think he is not doing too bad but in the midfield a single tenth can make the difference. Three crap races in a row. Not the setup he wanted but he will adapt in due time.
I don't know.

Certainly it is not looking good. If Russell also finished say 9th/10th or lower, you could just say bad car. It is not a magic car for sure but he should not be finishing 14th fighting AT, AM, Williams.

Remember this same race last year people asked what Bottas was doing fighting a Williams yet today Ham was beaten by one in conditions generally in which he is considered one of the best.
Isn't the car really. It's a mixture of bad luck and being in the midfield. Hamilton needs to just have that extra tenth in these wacky conditions.
Keep in mind he was quicker race pace wise in the first three races.

He's an emotional guy. That's probably his biggest weakness and he's letting the disappointment get to him like it did in 2011 when Vettel was out of reach.

This is not anything new really. LH have experienced rounds of meagre results before. We can take it. We don't think LH is God as people try to brand us. In fact most of us are fans of the sport anyway.
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Re: 2022 Emilia Romagna Grand Prix - Imola, April 22 - 24

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Great drives from Verstappen, Perez, Norris, Russell and Albon too! =D>

Fingers crossed that Red Bull reliability problems are fixed.

That was a fun race overall IMO, even if there wasn't a huge amount of overtaking.

I guess Tifosi will be disappointed but oh well. Just a couple of those things, not much that could be done about that. The car still has the pace I think, perhaps the damp conditions suited Red Bull a little better, but it was only one race ago that Leclerc was driving off into the distance!

dialtone wrote:
24 Apr 2022, 16:41
the poster below wrote:
24 Apr 2022, 16:34
Is there a record for most laps spent sub 1s behind the same car? This race must be a contender for Hamilton
This very track saw Michael Schumacher behind Alonso for a good chunk of the race in 2005.
We forget it was actually a different layout then, with an extra chicane. I had forgotten all about the extra chicane to be honest!
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Re: 2022 Emilia Romagna Grand Prix - Imola, April 22 - 24

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Sevach wrote:
24 Apr 2022, 16:59
Perfect weekend for Max and a very solid one for Perez.
Bringing upgrades to a Sprint weekend was deemed to risky by Ferrari, but it seems to have paid off, they had the pace and it wasn't by a small margin.
Red Bull also might've learned something on how to setup this car in Melbourne.
Now it's up to Ferrari to respond.

The Red Mist caught Charles, he needs to learn fast, he's no longer racing for random good results.
Sainz was an innocent party this time.

Great result for Lando in a rather lonely race.
Good damage limitation for Russell, car didn't have the pace he got what he could.
I was cheering Bottas down the stretch too bad he couldn't pull it off, still very good in these conditions(something he often struggled in his Merc years), despite a terrible stop.
Good summary. Thank you.
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Re: 2022 Emilia Romagna Grand Prix - Imola, April 22 - 24

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JordanMugen wrote:
24 Apr 2022, 17:06
Great drives from Verstappen, Perez, Norris, Ricciardo and Albon too! =D>

Fingers crossed that Red Bull reliability problems are fixed.
what was great about Ricciardo's drive? ;)

I'd definitely mention Bottas as well. He lost 10s due to the bad pit stop, and still finished only 8s off the podium. I'd say he was "best of the rest" today.

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search wrote:
24 Apr 2022, 17:12
what was great about Ricciardo's drive? ;)
Whoops! Wrong R driver. :lol:

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Re: 2022 Emilia Romagna Grand Prix - Imola, April 22 - 24

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Charles definitely dropped the ball there, but his post race interview with Sky gives me confidence that he knows where he’s at and what he needs to do moving forward. I have faith and confidence in him.

I think it’s too soon to say redbull’s update has brought them well clear of Ferrari, due to track conditions and tyre wear this weekend could be track specific, but I think it is likelyyyy that redbull has edged ahead.

Heading into Miami, which looks like it should suit the redbull significantly more, I think Ferrari needs to make hay. If they have these updates ready, and have been focused on introducing them conservatively, I think they do need to step up and get some extra performance on the car. Not because I’m a twitter psycho that thinks it’s all over immediately, but again - to make hay. They are close, they need to capitalise now. Not months from now.

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Re: 2022 Emilia Romagna Grand Prix - Imola, April 22 - 24

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4 races in the Lewis says he out of the championship. It is disappointing to hear because: "We never give up" really is just sloganeering.

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PlatinumZealot wrote:
24 Apr 2022, 17:03
grubschumi13 wrote:
24 Apr 2022, 16:52
PlatinumZealot wrote:
24 Apr 2022, 16:41


I think he is not doing too bad but in the midfield a single tenth can make the difference. Three crap races in a row. Not the setup he wanted but he will adapt in due time.
I don't know.

Certainly it is not looking good. If Russell also finished say 9th/10th or lower, you could just say bad car. It is not a magic car for sure but he should not be finishing 14th fighting AT, AM, Williams.

Remember this same race last year people asked what Bottas was doing fighting a Williams yet today Ham was beaten by one in conditions generally in which he is considered one of the best.
Isn't the car really. It's a mixture of bad luck and being in the midfield. Hamilton needs to just have that extra tenth in these wacky conditions.
Keep in mind he was quicker race pace wise in the first three races.

He's an emotional guy. That's probably his biggest weakness and he's letting the disappointment get to him like it did in 2011 when Vettel was out of reach.

This is not anything new really. LH have experienced rounds of meagre results before. We can take it. We don't think LH is God as people try to brand us. In fact most of us are fans of the sport anyway.
I do think a lot of teams will find huge gains as the season progresses including Mercedes. Look at Mclaren who were back markers in the first 2 races now on the edge of the Podium. Leclerc is error prone, RBR have reliability questions. Anything can happen.

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Re: 2022 Emilia Romagna Grand Prix - Imola, April 22 - 24

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Wow, for RB it couldn't go any better. Really a flawless weekend by VER and PER. I am not so sure Ferrari has the best driver pairing. But we'll see.

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Re: 2022 Emilia Romagna Grand Prix - Imola, April 22 - 24

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I think porpoising has finally caught up with Ferrari now, Imola was a struggle because they had no time to setup the car with a good compromise with the rain and everything, and the instability in braking in Tamburello and Villeneuve made them unable to brake late enough without burning through the tyres, this is probably what caused the graining on Saturday as well when Leclerc was trying to keep Verstappen behind unsuccessfully.

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The bad S1 for Ferrari forced Leclerc to take chances in S3 in an attempt to get the fastest lap and that obviously messed up his race, they should have been happy to finish 3rd rather than trying for fastest lap.

I agree Leclerc made a mistake, but overall this is a mistake in an attempt to overdrive the car to get that extra point rather than settling, not one of those mistakes like spinning Vettel.
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