[ 2020 ] Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

[basti313]

Very surprised Nando didnt get the penalty for the pit incident, it clearly benefited both him and Sainz by hindering his rivals and was rather dangerous in my eyes. Didnt Vettel do exactly the same in Hungary in the RB days and get a penalty before?

To be honest...I do not think there was anything to penalize:
- He kept the distance on track at the necessary 10 car length.
- He went quickly between SC line and pit entry. This is to prevent an overtake in this area.
- He slammed the brakes at the pit entry. Nothing uncommon as one can not run with 200km/h into the pits.

I do not think he left much space...not more than allowed. At least I never saw him unusually slow.

[Big Tea]

Very surprised Nando didnt get the penalty for the pit incident, it clearly benefited both him and Sainz by hindering his rivals and was rather dangerous in my eyes. Didnt Vettel do exactly the same in Hungary in the RB days and get a penalty before?

To be honest...I do not think there was anything to penalize:
- He kept the distance on track at the necessary 10 car length.
- He went quickly between SC line and pit entry. This is to prevent an overtake in this area.
- He slammed the brakes at the pit entry. Nothing uncommon as one can not run with 200km/h into the pits.

I do not think he left much space...not more than allowed. At least I never saw him unusually slow.

And it was not a racing lap

[_cerber1]

Lando had cold tires and it was very easy to block them. There was nothing wrong there.

[M840TR]

Very surprised Nando didnt get the penalty for the pit incident, it clearly benefited both him and Sainz by hindering his rivals and was rather dangerous in my eyes. Didnt Vettel do exactly the same in Hungary in the RB days and get a penalty before?

His speed and driving didn’t warrant a penalty according yo the stewards.

[ScottR267]

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[diffuser]

Silverstone also has some slow speed corners, Mugello seems to be medium to high speed. Paul Di Resta suggested they may never drop below 4th gear, so it could be good for us.

In Monza it seemed to be that we struggled more at the slow corners then bolted off in S2 and S3. Sainz was consistently losing time in S1 to Gasly and gaining back in the rest of the lap.
At one point I thought it was energy deployment when Lando was doing the same thing earlier in the race, but I guess it is more down to the cars strengths, we will suffer at slower corners.

I'm optimistic that Mugello will offer a similar opportunity than Monza.

In the sector times at Monza during quali, Sainz was 4th in all 3 sectors.

During the race he was consistently faster in S1 and S3 and slower in S2. At least after the restart.

[the EDGE]

Very surprised Nando didnt get the penalty for the pit incident, it clearly benefited both him and Sainz by hindering his rivals and was rather dangerous in my eyes. Didnt Vettel do exactly the same in Hungary in the RB days and get a penalty before?

Dangerous? How exactly?

He drove to to specified delta times and kept to the correct distance & speed required at all times - He did nothing wrong, hence no penalty

What you saw on TV was everyone else trying to drive as close as they possibly could to get into their boxes as soon as they possibly could, now that’s on Lando is it?

[SmallSoldier]

In Monza it seemed to be that we struggled more at the slow corners then bolted off in S2 and S3. Sainz was consistently losing time in S1 to Gasly and gaining back in the rest of the lap.

I read it differently; was watching the sectors times closely the last few laps. Carlos was consistently 2-3 tenths faster in S1, 2 tenths slower in S2, and then they matched each other in S3. On a good lap he gained as much as 0.5 in S1. Once he caught up, this changed due to running in dirty air.

The theoretical best lap chart posted after practice also showed this patterns as I recall, with the AT being really strong in S2 and S3.

Exactly, he was faster in S1... Will lose the advantage in S2 and they were pretty even (with an slight advantage to Carlos) in S3... That’s why he couldn’t get into Gasly’s DRS, because he couldn’t get close enough in S2.


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[M840TR]

Anyone else get this feeling that Ricciardo would’ve gone for the move in T1 on the last lap?

[PhillipM]

He would have wiped them both out if he had.

[Macklaren]

Yes, agreed. not worth the risk for both on 30 lap old Mediums

[_cerber1]

[Andres125sx]

Anyone else get this feeling that Ricciardo would’ve gone for the move in T1 on the last lap?

I´ve read Gasly used new tires while they were used on Carlos car. Add to that he was on clean air the whole second stint while Carlos had to pass some cars (including a tough battle with Stroll) doing the whole stint in dirty air. I think Carlos did good enough trying till last moment with slower tires but without going crazy, even when we all were anxious for a victory

Not a race to look at what could have done better Carlos, I rate Ricciardo very very high, but can´t guarantee he´d have matched Carlos weekend. I rate Carlos lower than Ricciardo, but that does not mean he can´t do it better some weekend. This may be one of them, he was consistently the fastest behind Mercedes in FP3, Q, and both races

[Hoffman900]

I think Carlos is every bit as aggressive as Riccardo, but he’s lacking some of Danny Ric’s experience.

I don’t think anyone would have had it, dirty air and the AT was pulling the Mclaren off the corners... some of it is just the time / speed differential, but it was clear the AT had a bit more off the corners where the Mclaren had the top end.

I think Carlos did as good as just about anyone could have given the circumstances. He, and everyone else should be very happy with his performance.