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tbh the only Livery i like more than what McLaren already has now is that one:

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But that is as always just my Personal Taste.
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I think the problem here is, is that some brands have colours that is associated with the brand, and some where it is not. Ferrari and Red go together and this since years. With Mercedes it is silver. Perhaps McLaren it is orange, to a degree, but like other brands it is less attached to a specific colour or colour scheme. So in that sense, there is no right or wrong.

I still think that the car they have shown so far at the Jerez pre-test is a huge missed opportunity. An opportunity to get a lot of attention to ring in a new era - an era with Honda and without Mercedes. In that sense, a silver livery would be the last thing I'd be looking to have on my car. Even if the whole sponsorship is still an unknown factor (they don't have a main title sponsor yet?) - publicity doesn't harm, so why not use this year, or the test, to grab some more attention with running a completely new livery? I think the above picture of white and red looks fantastic. Even if it isn't that, anything other than what they have shown IMO would be better.
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Thunders wrote:tbh the only Livery i like more than what McLaren already has now is that one:

http://hondaintegra.co.uk/wp-content/up ... claren.jpg

But that is as always just my Personal Taste.

Reminds me of toyota though.

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Any Livery will remind someone of something. I just stated what i personal would like the most. Nothing else.
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Thunders wrote:Any Livery will remind someone of something. I just stated what i personal would like the most. Nothing else.
All those white/red retro liveries reminded me of this car:

http://coolcarswallpaper.com/wp-content ... 00x450.jpg

Didn't know Mclaren drove with Alfa Romeo engines! :mrgreen: /endsarcasm
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Phil wrote: I still think that the car they have shown so far at the Jerez pre-test is a huge missed opportunity. An opportunity to get a lot of attention to ring in a new era - an era with Honda and without Mercedes. In that sense, a silver livery would be the last thing I'd be looking to have on my car. Even if the whole sponsorship is still an unknown factor (they don't have a main title sponsor yet?) - publicity doesn't harm, so why not use this year, or the test, to grab some more attention with running a completely new livery?
I wouldn't of thought that bringing back any livery would give/not give more attention. Anyway attention can lead to distraction, something which no F1 teams really wants at this point in a season/pre season.

Maybe something as great as that livery can't just be slapped on any McLaren/Honda until it's a proven contender, something which Jerez may of indicated already, but don't just base that on publisised lap times and x Km's ran. They had their own agenda at the test. Only the team themselves know what they've got performance wise!

Something as prestigous as the Red/White livery on a bad car would do more harm than good IMO. A livery has no impact on the speed of a car, what it can do though is set an extremely high expectation to the world (which includes sponsors btw), which if you fail to meet or exceed doesn't bode very well. You end up firefighting a PR nightmare with a perceived comeback of the glory days based on colours.

Lets see what tomorrows Honda confrence brings.

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xDama wrote:
Thunders wrote:Any Livery will remind someone of something. I just stated what i personal would like the most. Nothing else.
All those white/red retro liveries reminded me of this car:

http://coolcarswallpaper.com/wp-content ... 00x450.jpg

Didn't know Mclaren drove with Alfa Romeo engines! :mrgreen: /endsarcasm
Interestingly though, that's very much 'Marlboro Red' whereas the Mclaren livery was more like their own 'Rocket Red.'

Splitting hairs true, but Mclaren seemed to have been allowed to put their own spin on it...

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KeiKo403 wrote:
Phil wrote: I still think that the car they have shown so far at the Jerez pre-test is a huge missed opportunity. An opportunity to get a lot of attention to ring in a new era - an era with Honda and without Mercedes. In that sense, a silver livery would be the last thing I'd be looking to have on my car. Even if the whole sponsorship is still an unknown factor (they don't have a main title sponsor yet?) - publicity doesn't harm, so why not use this year, or the test, to grab some more attention with running a completely new livery?
Anyway attention can lead to distraction, something which no F1 teams really wants at this point in a season/pre season.
How so? They are certainly receiving attention, even without the much anticipated change in livery. Attention doesn't necessarely have to be bad - they are still in need of a main title sponsor, to whom the overal appearance and the resulting attention is probably the most important factor. And until there is no main title sponsor, the biggest contributor is Honda... which is why, the point that the majority of the car is silver (that, if associated to any car or engine manufacturer, would be Mercedes, their long term ex partner and supplier...) is rather puzzling.

I'm not saying that they should revive any X particular livery they raced under in the past... I'm just saying, anything other than silver probably would have been good. And what better timing there would be for a livery change, than after 2 horrendous, disappointing years in the sport and at the brink of an exciting new era under Honda turbo engines?
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Phil wrote:
KeiKo403 wrote:
Phil wrote: I still think that the car they have shown so far at the Jerez pre-test is a huge missed opportunity. An opportunity to get a lot of attention to ring in a new era - an era with Honda and without Mercedes. In that sense, a silver livery would be the last thing I'd be looking to have on my car. Even if the whole sponsorship is still an unknown factor (they don't have a main title sponsor yet?) - publicity doesn't harm, so why not use this year, or the test, to grab some more attention with running a completely new livery?
Anyway attention can lead to distraction, something which no F1 teams really wants at this point in a season/pre season.
How so? They are certainly receiving attention, even without the much anticipated change in livery. Attention doesn't necessarely have to be bad - they are still in need of a main title sponsor, to whom the overal appearance and the resulting attention is probably the most important factor. And until there is no main title sponsor, the biggest contributor is Honda... which is why, the point that the majority of the car is silver (that, if associated to any car or engine manufacturer, would be Mercedes, their long term ex partner and supplier...) is rather puzzling.

I'm not saying that they should revive any X particular livery they raced under in the past... I'm just saying, anything other than silver probably would have been good. And what better timing there would be for a livery change, than after 2 horrendous, disappointing years in the sport and at the brink of an exciting new era under Honda turbo engines?
I do agree with some of your points but imagine that they launch the car with Red/White livery. Then have a horrendous test at Jerez, that's not good and running with that livery would only do damage to the historic McLaren/Honda image and the start of the new era too. My opinion is that they've ran with an intrim livery (something we know)to guage how deserving the MP4-30 is of the classic Red/White livery.

I can't explain the silver but it wouldn't surprise me if it was one of Dennis' power-play tatics to honda or any other potential main/title sponser, saying (demostrating even) that he's not frightened to run with Silver on a car. Granted, that tatic can back-fire but when you've already tied Honda into the Team, who cares.

You are right about them needing a main sponsor though, even if it isn't for the money!

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ScottB wrote:
xDama wrote:
Thunders wrote:Any Livery will remind someone of something. I just stated what i personal would like the most. Nothing else.
All those white/red retro liveries reminded me of this car:

http://coolcarswallpaper.com/wp-content ... 00x450.jpg

Didn't know Mclaren drove with Alfa Romeo engines! :mrgreen: /endsarcasm
Interestingly though, that's very much 'Marlboro Red' whereas the Mclaren livery was more like their own 'Rocket Red.'

Splitting hairs true, but Mclaren seemed to have been allowed to put their own spin on it...
A twist like Team Penske did? :mrgreen:

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djos wrote:I must admit, the more I look at this one the more I like it.

http://i.imgur.com/bFbz6OJ.jpg

The chrome Orange anyway, I don't much like the amount of black.
Looks like a butter scotch sweetie. Not a bad thing if you ask me.
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I spent 20+ years in the paint and chemical industry, and I can safely say I'v never seen men talk about paint colours as much as you guys, worst then women.
If your wife's find out that you are talking about paint colours, you'll be spending next weekend inside painting :shock:

Just to clarify Marlboro's colours on the Mclaren cars are White and fluorescent Red, not white and red
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wesley123 wrote:Except for the fact that's color palette is completely different
you are really full of it. still haven't answered the question above.
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Manoah2u wrote:
wesley123 wrote:Except for the fact that's color palette is completely different
you are really full of it. still haven't answered the question above.
While you are waiting for an answer, I'll ask you this question

What is a " Heritage livery " ?
is it old race cars painted in period correct livery that ran in the day ?
or is it when you use that old livery on a new car or maybe on a car that never was painted in that livery ?

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djos wrote:I must admit, the more I look at this one the more I like it.

http://i.imgur.com/bFbz6OJ.jpg

The chrome Orange anyway, I don't much like the amount of black.
ran across a mirrored version of this, can't find it now, will post it when i run across it again

meanwhle, have some more "ferrari" liveries

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"Hamilton was beating Verstappen 7-0, then the ref decided F%$& rules, next goal wins
while also sending off 4 Hamilton players to make it more interesting"