2021 Bahrain Grand Prix - Sakhir, March 26 - 28

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fritticaldi wrote:
27 Mar 2021, 22:38
Verstappen is starting the race on Soft tyres. Expect him to have a rocket start and pull away. The Mercedes duo will have mediums so they will have a conservative approach.
Max is on mediums too.
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https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/vers ... 84/?nrt=54

Could've been worst.

And at a track Red Bull hasn't been competitive since the V8s.

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zibby43 wrote:
27 Mar 2021, 20:56
Mattyw wrote:
27 Mar 2021, 20:31
https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files ... ds_v01.pdf

Honda power!

Has merc whacked on the DF ?
Don’t know how much this contributed, but Toto revealed Merc were dealing with a PU derating issue that they hope to solve soon.

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/merc ... l/5941677/
Interesting probably a bit of both then.AT topping the speeds suggests a very strong PU from Honda!

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I'm not sharing any Merc/Lewis fans optimism for the rest of the season. Even this coming from a fan of both. When they were behind they used their budget to dig deep, to develop and work on the car. They just don't have that luxury anymore. Obviously neither do Red Bull, but it must be easier when you're the lead car and have time in hand to react in time to any rival upgrades. Especially when any upgrades on this years car in terms of aero could be not allowed on 2022, which is a waste of evermore prescious hours of research and money.

We've seen mercedes have this type of gap to the team behind and it ends up being a scrap between just the drivers of the front team. If Perez can remove strategic errors like today then that will come into fruition. With how planted RB is and the undeniable skill Max has, I don't see this season turning out any other way with Max as WDC and RB WCC. I don't think Max will struggle with a championship run, he seems to know what is in store for this season and his mentality shows that he's been ready for this for a clue years now. I just hope that merc or any team can just keep RB honest. Even though it's great seeing a team on top that is not Merc. It's not solving any issues if it's just one dominant car being replaced with another.

Only thing I can see stopping Max is either reliability issues creep in which just doesn't seem to be appearing. Or Covid.

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Guys. It does not look good for the season if Mercedes does unlock the car.

RedBull is fast everywhere.

Taken from autosport forums frederico Albano
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Not only does Verstappen have in his hands a car that is stable in the changes of direction and at the rear, but also one with a lot of aerodynamic load and efficiency, capable of higher speeds in almost all the stretches of the track and at the same time of bringing home partial measurements in corners that are often higher than the competition. The impression, even looking at the performance of the Alpha Tauri that we will analyze in a moment, is that under the hood of the RB16B there is a propulsion unit that has really found a lot of horsepower, allowing Newey to raise the bar of aerodynamic load. It's no coincidence that the load index of Verstappen's car (which is the ratio between top speed and average lap speed) is higher than Mercedes by about 0.2% and higher than the rest of the competition by over 1.1%. This measurement is only indicative, as it is only completely true when comparing cars with equal power, but in any case it has almost never happened in the recent past to see a Mercedes outperformed in this measurement.
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Instead, the second row is just one tenth behind a struggling Bottas. The comparison with the Alpha Tauri of Gasly, fifth and the first rival in tomorrow's race, tells of a car from Faenza that has chosen a much lower set-up than all the competition. Going back to the load index, compared to Verstappen (and here we are at equal power), Gasly's car has 1.56% less aerodynamic load. And in the comparison with Leclerc, it is clear that the Frenchman is always much faster than the Monegasque, with peaks of +8 km/h in the back straight. The data, however, show that Maranello is working hard. The activity that we had glimpsed on the front seems to have brought excellent results, and it is precisely where there is a need for stability under braking that the SF21 number 16 brings out some excellent relative, such as at turn 8, turn 10 and turn 14. Then the approach to the difficult turn 11 is excellent, where a car that the driver can trust is needed. Analyzing the braking of turn 1, it is easy to see how much Leclerc can sink more into the braking and bring more speed in all the meters of the braking. Thanks to this, in spite of an Alpha Tauri with better traction due to the explosiveness of the Honda engine, Leclerc gains a good 1.5 tenths in that phase. The impression is that the improved power unit allows the Maranello team to put much more balanced set-ups on track, finally exploiting their strengths without being perpetually on the defensive.
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InsaneX_Badger wrote:
27 Mar 2021, 23:15
... Or Covid.
Probably not, he's already vaccinated

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Going by the data, assuming it is of good quality, the RB car keeps rocketing higher and higher without any drop off at the end of the straight.

The Honda has a gamma ray reactor inside of it or the cars is as slippery as a mako shark.
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zibby43 wrote:
27 Mar 2021, 19:54
LM10 wrote:
27 Mar 2021, 19:48
A pretty pleasant result for me as a Ferrari fan! Leclerc, as always, did a wonderful job there. Unlucky for the mistake Sainz had in Q3 which hindered him from improving.

All in all Ferrari seems to have done quite a good step and that bodes well for the future.

Let’s hope for an exciting race!
Definitely! I had nominated them as a Dark Horse after their car launch. Although I hadn't seen it turn a wheel at that point, the scope of what they re-worked on the car, from front to back, really impressed me.
Yes, I can remember that! It impressed me as well. Hope Ferrari keeps up the pace and fights for 3rd spot until the end.

Excited for the season. Mercedes will have a strong contender in RBR. I'm curious what they might come up with in the following races. As they started to develop the new car earlier than anyone, I highly doubt that a curly floor is the only thing they managed to bring. There must be something in the pipe line.

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Well this has been an interesting Qually.
Things are more or less as expected with some nice results here and there and some that will have to see in the race and more races.

It does seem RBR are just a tad on top of Merc right now, but it's still Race day that counts and unfortunately Perez is a bit down the line. He did atleast show his worth and i think is more a victim of circumstances in this case to not make Q3. He definately is a sunday talent so he'll pick some stuff back up. I liked Sainz generally having his foot on top of LeClerc, too bad in the end there were some issues. I REALLY liked seeing Alonso P9. That put a smile to my face. He's right up there, i wasn't expecting him there so soon already.
Tsunoda left me pretty speechless in Q1, where did that come from? Let's hope it's not a one-time 'incident' like Hulkenberg's qually lap in Brazil @ Williams years ago.
Mazepin as expected making a mess of things.
Was hoping more from Mickey but let's see.

Russell also again showing his undeniable talent, what a waste to see him in such a dog of a car. He did outstanding.

Gonna be a veeeery interesting race.

Max looks mighty but well, a few issues could totally turn things upside down and i'm absolutely sure there's going to be atleast one full-on Safety Car, perhaps even more.

My wishes for sunday:

1. Verstappen
2. Hamilton
3. Ricciardo
4. Alonso
5. Sainz
6. Perez

yes, Bottas, Leclerc and Gasly need to collect eachother for that to happen. I know. It won't happen though.

More likely - not what i;m hoping though

1. Hamilton
2. Bottas
3. LeClerc
4. Ricciardo
5. Sainz
6. Gasly
7. Alonso
8. Perez
9. Stroll

yes, Max gets the DNF treatment.

What remains though is this:

Even though RedBull seems to have the edge right now, Mercedes is still mighty, are having two cars, and I am very much expecting Hamilton to under or overcut Max during the race, with or without the help of Bottas at some point being a 'blockade'.

I would however concider the most interesting and exciting factor for tomorrow to be Gasly. Does he / the AT really belong there? and if so, what's he able to achieve?

Must say i did not expect Ferrari to be so far up there already.
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Some initial thoughts
  • Perez - seems like he could just be another Fisichella/Heidfield, good in a midfield team but just crumbles in a front running team. Will be interesting to see what he can do in a season where Max looks like he could dominate.
  • Mazepin - the ultimate pay driver, paid for private testing in a Mercedes, spinning the car all over the place this weekend.
  • Honda - both Red Bull and Alpha Tauri looking very fast, are Honda once again exiting the sport on the cusp of success?

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InsaneX_Badger wrote:
27 Mar 2021, 23:15
I'm not sharing any Merc/Lewis fans optimism for the rest of the season. Even this coming from a fan of both. When they were behind they used their budget to dig deep, to develop and work on the car. They just don't have that luxury anymore. Obviously neither do Red Bull, but it must be easier when you're the lead car and have time in hand to react in time to any rival upgrades. Especially when any upgrades on this years car in terms of aero could be not allowed on 2022, which is a waste of evermore prescious hours of research and money.

We've seen mercedes have this type of gap to the team behind and it ends up being a scrap between just the drivers of the front team. If Perez can remove strategic errors like today then that will come into fruition. With how planted RB is and the undeniable skill Max has, I don't see this season turning out any other way with Max as WDC and RB WCC. I don't think Max will struggle with a championship run, he seems to know what is in store for this season and his mentality shows that he's been ready for this for a clue years now. I just hope that merc or any team can just keep RB honest. Even though it's great seeing a team on top that is not Merc. It's not solving any issues if it's just one dominant car being replaced with another.

Only thing I can see stopping Max is either reliability issues creep in which just doesn't seem to be appearing. Or Covid.
For God's sake, it is close between Merc and RBR. There is no dominance. If anything Merc has the advantage with 2 cars to split their strategy with.

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Sieper wrote:
27 Mar 2021, 20:15
El Scorchio wrote:
27 Mar 2021, 17:50
FittingMechanics wrote:
27 Mar 2021, 17:47


Story of AT being faster than 2nd RB driver continues.
It’s becoming more than a coincidence
Oh please. You really are incapable of giving credit where credit is due. Perez wasn’t even that far behind Max in Q2. It was too much though. They should have played it save in the first race and just go out on reds. Now he has used 2 sets of yellows and is still on P11. Which is his startnumber :D will he start on whites now?
I am giving credit. To Gasly.

It’s completely fair and accurate to say the RBR second driver has struggled in the last few seasons against the top AT driver.

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PlatinumZealot wrote:
27 Mar 2021, 23:29
Going by the data, assuming it is of good quality, the RB car keeps rocketing higher and higher without any drop off at the end of the straight.

The Honda has a gamma ray reactor inside of it or the cars is as slippery as a mako shark.
Apparently Mercedes had a derating issue.

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PlatinumZealot wrote:
27 Mar 2021, 23:29
Going by the data, assuming it is of good quality, the RB car keeps rocketing higher and higher without any drop off at the end of the straight.

The Honda has a gamma ray reactor inside of it or the cars is as slippery as a mako shark.
Yeah, they don't let up near the end of the straights like Merc and Ferrari do...
I wonder what it will look like in race mode.