2022 Azerbaijan Grand Prix - Baku, June 10 - 12

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Shakeman wrote:
12 Jun 2022, 15:46
Sainz said after Monaco that he was really concerned with the health of his neck and back and he wouldn't fancy starting out his career as a rookie as he didn't think careers would be as long.

I would tend to listen to the drivers with out your fan hats on and realise there's potentially a serious issue that needs to be addressed.
Exactly.

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Apart from porpoising and risks for drivers health, especially Merc apparently, these rules have failed miserably to make the field closer. Verstappen almost lapped the McLaren
It's like watching the 2020 championship. I can't imagine any other team than Ferrari-RB winning a race really.

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Mods really need to take a look at some of the hate and disparaging comments in the last couple pages. This forum has descended into motoraport.com levels of childish behavior in terms of chat etiquette

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djones wrote:
12 Jun 2022, 15:50
Part of me thinks it would be unfair to change the rules when some teams are doing well with it.

But another part of me thinks maybe it will bring closer racing. At the moment we have just swapped which teams are miles ahead, there is too much of a gulf between the teams and that is reducing the fun to be seen.
It would be hugely unfair on those teams who have worked for over a year on a solution to bouncing or preventing it when they brought a car to Barcelona testing. Look at red bull, they brought a suspension setup which stopped a lot of their bouncing on day 3....so were clearly working on something prior.

Only way to bring closer racing, would be fully regulated cars like F2 has. which isnt what F1 is about IMHO
Mess with the Bull - you get the horns.

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If it stays as it is, we will have a a boring cruise for the drivers ( one of rb drivers) highly likely max comfortably, and a cruise in the constructors

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Shakeman wrote:
12 Jun 2022, 15:46
Sainz said after Monaco that he was really concerned with the health of his neck and back and he wouldn't fancy starting out his career as a rookie as he didn't think careers would be as long.

I would tend to listen to the drivers with out your fan hats on and realise there's potentially a serious issue that needs to be addressed.
Sainz must be a crybaby doing politics with Hamilton some will say :lol:
This set of rule is fine if the field is closer and there's no risks for drivers health

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Spoutnik wrote:
12 Jun 2022, 15:53
Apart from porpoising and risks for drivers health, especially Merc apparently, these rules have failed miserably to make the field closer. Verstappen almost lapped the McLaren
It's like watching the 2020 championship. I can't imagine any other team than Ferrari-RB winning a race really.
Yep.

And the problem is due to budget caps nobody can really catch up now.

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dfegan358 wrote:
12 Jun 2022, 15:54
If it stays as it is, we will have a a boring cruise for the drivers ( one of rb drivers) highly likely max comfortably, and a cruise in the constructors
It really is. RB are not a team that will bottle some race like Merc in 2020 which is fun for the fans.
I think it could be boring. Leclerc will be in the VER role. Sainz in the Albon role.

Missing the 2021 battle even if the rest of the field was far away too
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I overslept and missed the race (I live in California)...

Was Verstappen likely to catch Leclerc if his engine didn't let go?

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shultz wrote:
12 Jun 2022, 15:56
I overslept and missed the race (I live in California)...

Was Verstappen likely to catch Leclerc if his engine didn't let go?
It was likely. He was in his gearbox for the first 5-10 laps.
The VSC at the end could've helped Charles if he was able to keep Verstappen behind.
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shultz wrote:
12 Jun 2022, 15:56
I overslept and missed the race (I live in California)...

Was Verstappen likely to catch Leclerc if his engine didn't let go?
I’m 95% sure Verstappen would have still won without the engine issue. His race pace was really strong.

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Where all of you were when we were forced to watch for 6 years in a row one team with insanely better engine humililating all the others?
F1 was and still is the same - we had Ferrari era, RBR era, Mercedes era end now again RBR era crossed with Ferrari. Nothing new.
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I’m not sure, leclerc had 12 second gap and had good pace but slightly older tires. He jumped ahead by putting under vsc. I don’t think it was a certainty either who would win but max had strong pace today. I think leclerc would have won in my opinion but most prob think max

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Neuron wrote:
12 Jun 2022, 15:59
Where all of you were when we were forced to watch for 6 years in a row one team with insanely better engine humililating all the others?
F1 was nad still is the same - we had Ferrari era, RBR era, Mercedes era end now again RBR era crossed with Ferrari. Nothing new.
The issue is that we heard that Merc dominance has to stop. But it was only... to be replaced by Red Bull. It's useless for everyone especially because there will never be any rivalry between Verstappen and Perez, lets be honest.

F1 has to make the field closer (2010, 2012..) to make these technical regulation works.

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shultz wrote:
12 Jun 2022, 15:56
I overslept and missed the race (I live in California)...

Was Verstappen likely to catch Leclerc if his engine didn't let go?
Maybe/Maybe not.

Top 10 + Ferrari gap graph:
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Top 2 teams gap graph:
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Top 2 teams lap times graph:
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Leclerc was managing and Gasly, with higher tyre deg than LEC was able to get to the end, albeit was passed by HAM. However Gasly never had 15 seconds gap to HAM until he had 10-11 after HAM's 2nd pit stop on fresher tyres. We can't guess the RedBull pace on Hards, but on a harder tyre it was going to be pretty even tyre wise, plus RedBull would have needed to choose whether to pit for the 2nd VSC and give up another 15s, but gain fresh tyres, or keep going. It was going to be close probably, VER was good at tire management, his setup was better for the race rather than what LEC, SAI and PER ended up with.

anyway... Ferrari with a big step back, at least good strategy and good speed wise, too bad it doesn't matter if you don't finish.

This post will likely get lost in the sea of Hamilton hating posts.