Singapore Grand Prix 2010 - Marina Bay

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Intego
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Lewis would have had the racing line, if Webber wasn't there, but he was. And because he was there and he was there on the left side in a left hand corner the space belonged to him. And he was on the kerb with half of the car, because Lewis thought, Webber would step back because of his tyres, but Webber was confident of his tyres.
Ergo racing incident.

Lewis should have known that Webber was confident enough not to let pass the golden opportunity to win the WDC.
My two cents.
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Giblet wrote:It's just not worth it. I might be wrong, have stated that I think it's a racing incident, and neither driver can be blamed 100%. I stand by that.

All of this is easy to analyze after the race, but these guys are doing it at speeds we can only dream of driving and reacting to. Things will happen.

Mistakes and drama are a good thing for the championship.
But it is easy for you to blame Hamilton for Monza :^o [-X

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komninosm wrote:
andrew wrote:2 cars going for the same piece of tarmac + poor visibility due to cockpit side = crash, bang, wallop.

Racing incident nothing more. That is the view that the race officials have taken and tey are correct.
So you're agreeing with stewards when it suits you and at other times you make conspiracy theories about em? :^o [-X
That's a bit hypocritical you know.
Note that I didn't ask for Webber to get penalty. I merely said it was his fault.

Komi, I might be wrong. I do agree with the stewards, and since I don't want this to escalate anymore, I am apologizing for saying what I did which was out of line and dismissive and immature, and am moving on.

I simply don't like arguing.
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Intego wrote:Lewis would have had the racing line, if Webber wasn't there, but he was. And because he was there and he was there on the left side in a left hand corner the space belonged to him. And he was on the kerb with half of the car, because Lewis thought, Webber would step back because of his tyres, but Webber was confident of his tyres.
Ergo racing incident.

Lewis should have known that Webber was confident enough not to let pass the golden opportunity to win the WDC.
My two cents.
So are you claiming Webber pulled a Schumi? :mrgreen:

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We dont need warnings and stuff...I dont see anything insulting here but 2 different opinions,lets grab a beer and relax will we?

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Poleman wrote:We dont need warnings and stuff...I dont see anything insulting here but 2 different opinions,lets grab a beer and relax will we?
I can't. It's only 10:34 am here. I have a rule to wait until 10:36 :)
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Giblet wrote:
komninosm wrote:
andrew wrote:2 cars going for the same piece of tarmac + poor visibility due to cockpit side = crash, bang, wallop.

Racing incident nothing more. That is the view that the race officials have taken and tey are correct.
So you're agreeing with stewards when it suits you and at other times you make conspiracy theories about em? :^o [-X
That's a bit hypocritical you know.
Note that I didn't ask for Webber to get penalty. I merely said it was his fault.

Komi, I might be wrong. I do agree with the stewards, and since I don't want this to escalate anymore, I am apologizing for saying what I did which was out of line and dismissive and immature, and am moving on.

I simply don't like arguing.
Apology accepted and I'm sorry too if you felt I was attacking you. I was attacking your posts with sound arguments.
Also my post above is not directed to you, but Andrew, so I'm kinda confused why you would reply thusly (like it was directed to you).

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Giblet wrote:
Sean H wrote:Webber's worst nightmare, Alonso in a equal car to the Red Bull. I'm sorry MW fans, he doesn't have the skill to keep up with Fred without a mechanical advantage.

Keep in mind Webber pitted very early and was on the same set of tires for most of the race.
Exactly, nothing lucky about Webbers drive at all, it was great strategy from RedBull pure an simple!

Oh and the contact with Lewis could have gone either way, it was a racing incident and frankly Hamilton was just a touch too ambitious trying to drive around Webber and then cut across him.

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Webber is clearly well down the inside as his nose is alongside Hamitons head, Bob on the other hand is 90% past the FI car!
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It's all good. We were firing back and forth so fast that I missed the quoted part.

Again, sorry Komi. We both got a little heated, it happens.
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Baby's, every single of you who's discussing the incident between Webber en Hamilton.

Stunning drive from Alonso and Vettel, McLaren on average 0,5 too slow this race. And once again my prediction was correct. Stil havent received the price for 2 weeks ago.

I think Button is out of the race, its between Webber, Alonso and Vettel, with a small side role for Hamilton.

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komninosm wrote:
Intego wrote:Lewis should have known that Webber was confident enough not to let pass the golden opportunity to win the WDC.
My two cents.
So are you claiming Webber pulled a Schumi? :mrgreen:
:?:
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TheRMVR wrote:Baby's, every single of you who's discussing the incident between Webber en Hamilton.

Stunning drive from Alonso and Vettel, McLaren on average 0,5 too slow this race. And once again my prediction was correct. Stil havent received the price for 2 weeks ago.

I think Button is out of the race, its between Webber, Alonso and Vettel, with a small side role for Hamilton.

You are correct, and I apologize. Sorry all.
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Sean H wrote:Hamilton hadn't cleared Webber yet.
Webber had control of the apex.

It was a racing incident. It happens when two racers get next to each other (and throw a lapper in there as well).

Not every accident needs a penalty or even fault to be blamed. They both could of lifted and/or avoided each other, but then they wouldn't be racing each other.
+1.


Great race by Alonso, he kept it together. The RBR still looks like the superior car to me. Good comeback from Kubica, too.
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Intego wrote:
komninosm wrote:
Intego wrote:Lewis should have known that Webber was confident enough not to let pass the golden opportunity to win the WDC.
My two cents.
So are you claiming Webber pulled a Schumi? :mrgreen:
:?:
I thought you implied that Webber took the golden opportunity to punt his competitor for the WDC out, like Schumacher did a couple of times in the past (twice successfully, once not so much). You seemed to imply he did it on purpose.
Note I was mildly joking.

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Intego wrote:Lewis would have had the racing line, if Webber wasn't there, but he was. And because he was there and he was there on the left side in a left hand corner the space belonged to him. And he was on the kerb with half of the car, because Lewis thought, Webber would step back because of his tyres, but Webber was confident of his tyres.
Ergo racing incident.

Lewis should have known that Webber was confident enough not to let pass the golden opportunity to win the WDC.
My two cents.
Thank god, some common sense! =D>
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