Exhaust blown diffusers and FIA restrictions/ban

[Lorenzo_Bandini]

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/92953

So it's Mercedes engine who gain an unfair advantage ?

[djos]

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/92953

So it's Mercedes engine who gain an unfair advantage ?

This is frackin insane, FFS FiA stopp frackin with the rules you morons!

[myurr]

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/92953

So it's Mercedes engine who gain an unfair advantage ?

This is frackin insane, FFS FiA stopp frackin with the rules you morons!

In a way that's what they've done. All teams are now able to run with the rules they were expecting to run with when they arrived in Silverstone.

[djos]

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/92953

So it's Mercedes engine who gain an unfair advantage ?

This is frackin insane, FFS FiA stopp frackin with the rules you morons!

In a way that's what they've done. All teams are now able to run with the rules they were expecting to run with when they arrived in Silverstone.

Except Mercedes powered teams who still get fired over-run!!

[myurr]

This is frackin insane, FFS FiA stopp frackin with the rules you morons!

In a way that's what they've done. All teams are now able to run with the rules they were expecting to run with when they arrived in Silverstone.

Except Mercedes powered teams who still get fired over-run!!

And when was that agreed? It was over a week ago. Renault only started their whinging once the weekend was underway.

I repeat, it is 100% factual that all teams are now running with the rules they expected when the weekend started.

[djos]

read the autosport artlice at the top of this page mate!

[siskue2005]

Except Mercedes powered teams who still get fired over-run!!

All the teams can run 10% hot blown over run, not just MErcs

[myurr]

read the autosport artlice at the top of this page mate!

I have read it, and the FIA statement, and listened to all of the P1, 2 and 3 commentary, and read all the other mainstream media reports.

What exactly do you think I'm missing that would prompt your condescending yet utterly uninformative post?

[Crafty]

read the autosport artlice at the top of this page mate!

I have read it, and the FIA statement, and listened to all of the P1, 2 and 3 commentary, and read all the other mainstream media reports.

What exactly do you think I'm missing that would prompt your condescending yet utterly uninformative post?

For a start its not just merc teams that can hot blow.

[Lorenzo_Bandini]

James Allen: #f1 All team tech people been summoned by FIA for emergency meeting on engine throttle maps. Will ruling change again?

[WhiteBlue]

I wonder why the FiA made this U-turn on the allowance of 50% throttle opening in the first place. I smells as if someone called Charlie Whiting and complained over an advantage Red Bull may get from that. But if Red Bulls clain is correct that they had this engine map since 2009 to cool the exhaust valves it would be very unfair to deny it to them. After all the whole delay from Barcelona to Silverstone was mainly done to sort out such issues. How can it be overlooked that Red Bull were running with 45% or 50% open throttle in the over run? Was the whole process of investigating engine manufacturers concerns flawed? Or was Red Bull using parameters that even Renault wasn't aware of? A lot of questions.

[myurr]

I wonder why the FiA made this U-turn on the allowance of 50% throttle opening in the first place. I smells as if someone called Charlie Whiting and complained over an advantage Red Bull may get from that. But if Red Bulls clain is correct that they had this engine map since 2009 to cool the exhaust valves it would be very unfair to deny it to them. After all the whole delay from Barcelona to Silverstone was mainly done to sort out such issues. How can it be overlooked that Red Bull were running with 45% or 50% open throttle in the over run? Was the whole process of investigating engine manufacturers concerns flawed? Or was Red Bull using parameters that even Renault wasn't aware of? A lot of questions.

For me I think the more pertinent question is why Charlie gave the 50% concession in the first place? Have Red Bull supplied the FIA with inaccurate information or false claims that were later disproved? If having the throttle open is so critical to the Renault engine, why did they wait until the race weekend to raise the issue? Why is it Red Bull that are protesting so profusely when they've claimed all along that it was down to the engine manufacturers?

[siskue2005]

read the autosport artlice at the top of this page mate!

I have read it, and the FIA statement, and listened to all of the P1, 2 and 3 commentary, and read all the other mainstream media reports.

What exactly do you think I'm missing that would prompt your condescending yet utterly uninformative post?

For a start its not just merc teams that can hot blow.

pwned lol =D>

[ecapox]

So many things going on here.

1. It is highly unfair that regulations change in the middle of the season for any reason except saftey. Especially when things were deemed legal for prior seasons.

2. Charlie has access to ALL teams data so even before he made the statement that only 10% would be allowed, he should have taken a look at what people were doing, and WHY they were doing it.

3. If you are using this overrun to solve reliability issues with your engine, that is a problem. A little overrun, no problem, but a 50% overrun, that is a design flaw and you are pushing your engine too much. Might be time to tune it back a little.

4. Why is Horner the one arguing for Renault engines? Shoudnt it be Renault complaining? That would be like STR arguing for Ferrari engines. Strange...unless it only affects Redbull....

[CHT]

4. Why is Horner the one arguing for Renault engines? Shoudnt it be Renault complaining? That would be like STR arguing for Ferrari engines. Strange...unless it only affects Redbull....

Perhaps Renault doesnt own the team anymore?