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Lewis Hamilton has taken victory at the United States Grand Prix, a result that was enough to seal his third F1 World Championship. Nico Rosberg made it another one-two finish for Mercedes AMG F1 while Sebastian Vettel finished third for Ferrari.
I thought the flags get displayed on their dash? So they would all appear at the same time.Diesel wrote:Not really. Its the leaders choice to let the cars catch up, he could maintain his gap if he wanted. The VSC then ends at a random moment, so obviously if you are close to cars in front, you might benefit from this if you react quicker. I believe this is what Rosberg was able to do, he saw the green flag before RIC did and managed to catch him off guard.SiLo wrote: Only problem is people seem to keep losing out/gaining during the VSC when by definition they shouldn't do. Barring pitstops of course.
Yes, but reaction time still plays a part, and you might not be staring at the dash at the right time. You might also try to anticipate it, which Rosberg might have done successfully.SiLo wrote:I thought the flags get displayed on their dash? So they would all appear at the same time.Diesel wrote:Not really. Its the leaders choice to let the cars catch up, he could maintain his gap if he wanted. The VSC then ends at a random moment, so obviously if you are close to cars in front, you might benefit from this if you react quicker. I believe this is what Rosberg was able to do, he saw the green flag before RIC did and managed to catch him off guard.SiLo wrote: Only problem is people seem to keep losing out/gaining during the VSC when by definition they shouldn't do. Barring pitstops of course.
Well actually, if you overtake under a yellow (VSC conditions), I believe that's a slam dunk drive through penalty.pob wrote:The VSC rules need looking at, maybe the yellows should be kept out for about two marshal posts once the VSC has been withdrawn. As it stands at the moment a driver may as well gamble on going early if there is a chance of overtaking as the only thing that will happen if he does go too early is to have to give the place back.
This sounds like a lot of hard work for no benefit.ringo wrote:I think for every corner for each track, there should be a speed limit when the VSC is deployed.
This speed limit will be displayed for each corner, and obvious these displayed speeds will be slower than racing speeds.
So the straights would also have their limits. This way everyone circulates basically at the same pace.
And how'd that work out in the end JC?Jonnycraig wrote:Ricciardo being schooled by Kvyat and then jumped on the vsc restart.
Exactly right FO, some people need to learn about tire slip angles before they post!Facts Only wrote:Have you ever driven a competition car? Or even a decent car at the limit? You dont just put more lock on when you have understeer, that makes it much worse.gilgen wrote:
Do you know what understeer is? it is when you have the wheels locked over but the car does not follow them. now, look at the on board from Hamiltons car...he does not have the wheels locked over. His steering wheel is in the straight ahead position, showing that he was NOT trying to steer into the corner, let alone have understeer.
This is why they have experienced drivers as the stewards and not random people from the internet who dont know how to drive fast but still think they know better than lewis Hamilton when it comes to driving an F1 car in the wet.
I have to agree, I think the problem is that the rules don't enforce the max target time as the pace to maintain and Hamilton was able to back the field up bringing Rosberg back into play.WaikeCU wrote:There's something I don't get with the VSC. No disrespect, but the VSC is a great idea as it is. The problem is, it's deployed incorrectly, because speeds are limited but not completely. Hence why Ricciardo lost a position to Rosberg. When the VSC period ended, the Mercedes and Red Bull cars were bunched up, whereas before the VSC even began, there were gaps between them. Can't they use the pit limiter to limit the speeds, so everyone is basically going equally as quick during the VSC period? If I recall correclty, at the moment they just slow down to a certain speed and that's it.
Iirc Ricciardo said he didn't get the VSC ending warning which was why he was so surprised - not sure if this is a team error or FiA system failure?turbof1 wrote:I believe the drivers usually get a warning when a VSC is about to end. I think it was 30 seconds or so before hand.
Isn't the issue actually that Hamilton backed the pack up by driving slower than the delta, allowing Rosberg to gain 4-5 seconds, and Vettel to gain 5-6 seconds.Diesel wrote:I don't really see the issue, Rosberg made the most of the restart, just like a normal SC restart and was able to mug Ricciardo who was caught napping. It's a bit similar to what Schumacher did at Monaco on the last lap all those years ago.
No, it's left to race engineers to inform them that VSC is ending, and then the driver should return to full speed the second they see a green flag/light board.turbof1 wrote:I believe the drivers usually get a warning when a VSC is about to end. I think it was 30 seconds or so before hand.
well said, that's exactly how i see it.Diesel wrote:....