2024 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

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CouncilorIrissa wrote:
09 Jun 2024, 21:05
Xyz22 wrote:
09 Jun 2024, 21:02
What are they doing? Just retire the car
They restarted the engine to fix the issue. Retiring the car does not make sense since they still need the data in wet conditions to fix the car's problems.
Good point its test session IMO
"And if you no longer go for a gap that exists, you're no longer a racing driver..." Ayrton Senna

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Ferrari finally put an end to Leclerc's suffering

IntrinsicVoid
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More or less it will resume back to normal service in Spain. They need to seriously learn from this and this is where Fred needs to step in.

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Disaster class. :lol:

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Sainz has crashed. That's all that was needed to complete this weekend's disaster.

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Perfect ending for such a shitshow of a weekend.

We needed this. Some people were too happy in the Team. Lot of mistakes. Good wake up call.

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So many engine issues for Leclerc, hard to understand.

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bananapeel23
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Luckily Red Bull is probably not going home with more than 15 points today. The double DNF would have been a lot more costly at any other track.

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Shocking weekend!
$hit happens and based on the season so far, for the most part that's all it is.
That said, car has got a big problem in both cool and changing conditions, I hope they get it sorted in double quick time because now the gaps have closed up it's becoming very costly!

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Between this and the wec bop for lemans, a truly horror weekend.

But at least this was the weekend to double dnf.

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dia6olo wrote:
09 Jun 2024, 21:34
Shocking weekend!
$hit happens and based on the season so far, for the most part that's all it is.
That said, car has got a big problem in both cool and changing conditions, I hope they get it sorted in double quick time because now the gaps have closed up it's becoming very costly!
Fans needs answer what in h… happend in Canada? It is complete meltdown of the team, strategi, pace of the car. Complete disaster. Something happend with pace of the car, it was soooo slowwww.

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dialtone wrote:
09 Jun 2024, 21:38
Between this and the wec bop for lemans, a truly horror weekend.

But at least this was the weekend to double dnf.
Agreed, better to have all the issues at once. Car is really not suited to cold or wet tracks for an undiscovered reason. Best all round car is now the McLaren imo, but verstappen gives rbr the edge. Watch Ferrari have a car suited for high track temps have rainy weekends all year now 😂

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Fer.Fan wrote:
09 Jun 2024, 21:41
dia6olo wrote:
09 Jun 2024, 21:34
Shocking weekend!
$hit happens and based on the season so far, for the most part that's all it is.
That said, car has got a big problem in both cool and changing conditions, I hope they get it sorted in double quick time because now the gaps have closed up it's becoming very costly!
Fans needs answer what in h… happend in Canada? It is complete meltdown of the team, strategi, pace of the car. Complete disaster. Something happend with pace of the car, it was soooo slowwww.
Everything that's happened is easily explained by what we know about the car's characteristics.

It was designed to put as little heat into the tyres as possible in order to fix the issues of its predecessor -- overheating that caused poor race pace. CGV as a circuit has no high-speed corners and a lot of straights, meaning that the cars that put less energy into the tyres suffer the most, as they simply can't keep the heat in the tyres. It's why the SF23 was good around this circuit and it's why the RB19 was vulnerable -- because of that very characteristic.

Now combine this with low temperatures, a chaotic weekend plagued by brake and PU issues you have the perfect storm for such a situation to happen. No strategy could've ever salvaged this.

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Well that weekend could not really have been any worse. Literally everything was bad. They’ve generally been good all year so I’m not going to go on about it but hopefully it can be a one off and they learn something from it.

The important thing will be to understand and fix the lack of pace - if it is just cold conditions, hopefully the combination of European summer and Silverstone update will mitigate that. Does anybody know which engine Leclerc was running? I wonder if it’s the same one they took out ahead of Monaco qualifying.

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CouncilorIrissa wrote:
09 Jun 2024, 21:46
Fer.Fan wrote:
09 Jun 2024, 21:41
dia6olo wrote:
09 Jun 2024, 21:34
Shocking weekend!
$hit happens and based on the season so far, for the most part that's all it is.
That said, car has got a big problem in both cool and changing conditions, I hope they get it sorted in double quick time because now the gaps have closed up it's becoming very costly!
Fans needs answer what in h… happend in Canada? It is complete meltdown of the team, strategi, pace of the car. Complete disaster. Something happend with pace of the car, it was soooo slowwww.
Everything that's happened is easily explained by what we know about the car's characteristics.

It was designed to put as little heat into the tyres as possible in order to fix the issues of its predecessor -- overheating that caused poor race pace. CGV as a circuit has no high-speed corners and a lot of straights, meaning that the cars that put less energy into the tyres suffer the most, as they simply can't keep the heat in the tyres. It's why the SF23 was good around this circuit and it's why the RB19 was vulnerable -- because of that very characteristic.

Now combine this with low temperatures, a chaotic weekend plagued by brake and PU issues you have the perfect storm for such a situation to happen. No strategy could've ever salvaged this.
It can not explain the fact Ferrari ware slower the mid teams. Not even top ten during the race. This was team set up disaster. Just look at Ferraris low DF rear wing, they put way to little DF on the car. Thats why they ware so slow. Just compare rear wings of RB, MB and Mclaren.