No and no.
100%. He'd be right up there had he made it to Q3. 3 tenths is a huge improvement on Albon and Gasly and that too with limited experience in the car. The optics of getting knocked out in Q2 dont put him in a good light but the rest of the season should prove this was a one offNathanOlder wrote: ↑28 Mar 2021, 13:24And only a blind fan will see it that way. when you look at what really happened, Perez was 3 tenths off Max with same tyres. Max was 7th, Perez 11th. The team will know this. RedBull took the gamble with both on mediums, and they missed out by a tiny amount. Perez didn't do so bad as he was pretty much as close to Max as Albon/Gasly were at their best. Perez will only get stronger.McMika98 wrote: ↑28 Mar 2021, 11:28Nope, Stats will show he was 1.6s slower than Max in Quali. Thats how it has always been, no ifs and buts. If you want to compare like for like on the same track condition, he was outperformed by Gasly on a much slower car. RedBull no longer have the issues that plagued the car over two years, Honda is top of the field, Max had floor damage worth 1 tenth from Q1, so he has no excuses for having the fastest car. Only one race so too early but he needs to out-qualify Merc who are struggling at the start and in Redbull territory last year.NathanOlder wrote: ↑28 Mar 2021, 11:07
Perez did only lose out by 3 tenths to Max, in his first ever qualy session for RedBull. In the RB16B that he has used for 15 hours.
I've told myself that too. If cars pull up to testing next year looking the same I'll probably quite watching. I just feel that the model Chase Carey envisioned was to make the field as even as possible and market the driver's as the product. Unfortunately that kills part of the spirit of F1.dans79 wrote: ↑28 Mar 2021, 09:07I honestly think I'm going to stop watching in a few years. F1 has lost all it's mystique in the rush to pull in as many bottom barrel fans as possible.Ringleheim wrote: ↑28 Mar 2021, 06:54I.E., F1 a little bet less F1, yet again.
If they keep going, it will be Indycar is no time at all!
The first lap is a way different animal.SirBastianVettel wrote: ↑28 Mar 2021, 15:48I really doubt that AT can keep up with RBR in the race.
I don't think Pierre thinks he's in any Red Bull car next year, so I don't think he gives ANY f@cks for team orders.El Scorchio wrote: ↑28 Mar 2021, 16:05If Gasly for some reason could finish above Max and chose to do it despite team wishes (I’m sure he’d get some subtle hints not to) I don’t think it would bode well for his future in the team. Especially with Albon still in the background.
Academic as he won’t.
He could be told to be the de facto wingman though in Perez’ absence.
I agree on that respect that he probably gives no shits, but I meant there’s a possibility he might not even be in the Apha Tauri next race if he showed such disregard for orders- hence my point about Albon still being in the picture.Zynerji wrote: ↑28 Mar 2021, 16:09I don't think Pierre thinks he's in any Red Bull car next year, so I don't think he gives ANY f@cks for team orders.El Scorchio wrote: ↑28 Mar 2021, 16:05If Gasly for some reason could finish above Max and chose to do it despite team wishes (I’m sure he’d get some subtle hints not to) I don’t think it would bode well for his future in the team. Especially with Albon still in the background.
Academic as he won’t.
He could be told to be the de facto wingman though in Perez’ absence.
RBR don't want that blowup in the media when they have their best title shot in ten years...
I think this is gonna get spicy this year, as the AT is seriously fast!
Being the first race, it could well be worth while just eeking out as long as possible and hope for a safety car.Schippke wrote: ↑28 Mar 2021, 14:48Regarding Strategy for todays race... would it be wise to assume that most of the front runners who are starting on Mediums will try and one stop; Medium/Hard?
If not, then you'd argue the cars that have started on the Softs mightn't loose out too much, should everyone need to 2-stop... Soft/Medium/Medium or Soft/Medium/Hard?
To be fair, I reckon the only cars that could make a 1-stopper work properly would be Verstappen's Red Bull and the 2 Silver Arrows.
Could you IMAGINE what the media would do to RBR if they replaced too-good of a driver in their junior team just because their Chosen One couldn't beat him?El Scorchio wrote: ↑28 Mar 2021, 16:11I agree on that respect that he probably gives no shits, but I meant there’s a possibility he might not even be in the Apha Tauri next race if he showed such disregard for orders- hence my point about Albon still being in the picture.Zynerji wrote: ↑28 Mar 2021, 16:09I don't think Pierre thinks he's in any Red Bull car next year, so I don't think he gives ANY f@cks for team orders.El Scorchio wrote: ↑28 Mar 2021, 16:05If Gasly for some reason could finish above Max and chose to do it despite team wishes (I’m sure he’d get some subtle hints not to) I don’t think it would bode well for his future in the team. Especially with Albon still in the background.
Academic as he won’t.
He could be told to be the de facto wingman though in Perez’ absence.
RBR don't want that blowup in the media when they have their best title shot in ten years...
I think this is gonna get spicy this year, as the AT is seriously fast!
Well it would be interesting! But I guess they aren’t there to look popular. I wonder though if it looked like the AT was a better bet (obviously not going to be the case and purely hypothetical) would they switch Verstappen to the AT team if it gave him/them the best chance?Zynerji wrote: ↑28 Mar 2021, 16:14Could you IMAGINE what the media would do to RBR if they replaced too-good of a driver in their junior team just because their Chosen One couldn't beat him?El Scorchio wrote: ↑28 Mar 2021, 16:11I agree on that respect that he probably gives no shits, but I meant there’s a possibility he might not even be in the Apha Tauri next race if he showed such disregard for orders- hence my point about Albon still being in the picture.Zynerji wrote: ↑28 Mar 2021, 16:09
I don't think Pierre thinks he's in any Red Bull car next year, so I don't think he gives ANY f@cks for team orders.
RBR don't want that blowup in the media when they have their best title shot in ten years...
I think this is gonna get spicy this year, as the AT is seriously fast!
Christian Horner would have to resign!