2024 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

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Does anyone know the remaining 20% of the upgrade will be there at Austria ? They had said they got 80% of the upgrade in Spain, wondering what is the remaining 20%.

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SoulPancake13 wrote:
27 Jun 2024, 19:50
yooogurt wrote:
27 Jun 2024, 19:44
SoulPancake13 wrote:
27 Jun 2024, 19:22
I asked Donadoni on twitter for some clarification on the upgrades(I don't know Italian so I rely on translation services a lot for the articles). He said that the team expected to see a 5 tenths improvement, but only saw 3.5 tenths of it. There is one tenth they can gain from just optimization. So the 1.5 tenths they aren't seeing is related to the "problems" the car was born with.
hmm 3.5+1.5+1 = 6, when team expect 5.
mb problem cost 0.5, not 1.5?
The overall gain they could find is 6 tenths. They expected to see 5 tenths this weekend since they haven't fully optimized the upgrade yet. They only saw 3.5 tenths. Theoretically then, the max from the upgrades would be 4.5 tenths.

Rereading the article though, it seems that Donadoni says that the bouncing was the reason why all the gain was not shown. Duchessa said on his twitter earlier too that the team expects to have removed the bouncing for Austria, so maybe we see a 1.5 tenth gain just from that.
I also asked him, in fact he clarified to me that it’s 0.5 without bouncing and a further 0.1 from optimization; according to the latest article of Duchessa, the optimization should be reached in time for Silverstone.

Austria is not susceptible to bouncing, so it’s 0.10-15 (it’s a shorter track) out of the box.

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jambuka wrote:
27 Jun 2024, 20:16
Does anyone know the remaining 20% of the upgrade will be there at Austria ? They had said they got 80% of the upgrade in Spain, wondering what is the remaining 20%.
Might be remaining 20% at Silverstone since that was when the package was intended to be introduced

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jambuka wrote:
27 Jun 2024, 20:16
Does anyone know the remaining 20% of the upgrade will be there at Austria ? They had said they got 80% of the upgrade in Spain, wondering what is the remaining 20%.
Silverstone will be small stuff, and then there will be another package later in the season.

I think we'll have a few more important chances through the season. Hopefully Ferrari will be as sharp as it was in Australia and Monaco.

I don't think we'll be able to fight with RB and McL overall. In some tracks they are just way too quick.

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Xyz22 wrote:
27 Jun 2024, 20:55
and then there will be another package later in the season.
in the last formula uno stream, they said "There will be a few more improvement packages for the rest of the 2024 season from Ferrari."
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organic wrote:
27 Jun 2024, 20:53
jambuka wrote:
27 Jun 2024, 20:16
Does anyone know the remaining 20% of the upgrade will be there at Austria ? They had said they got 80% of the upgrade in Spain, wondering what is the remaining 20%.
Might be remaining 20% at Silverstone since that was when the package was intended to be introduced
Agreed. Sprint weekend is not a great weekend to bring updates. One practice is not a lot of data to collect.

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codetower wrote:
27 Jun 2024, 21:49
organic wrote:
27 Jun 2024, 20:53
jambuka wrote:
27 Jun 2024, 20:16
Does anyone know the remaining 20% of the upgrade will be there at Austria ? They had said they got 80% of the upgrade in Spain, wondering what is the remaining 20%.
Might be remaining 20% at Silverstone since that was when the package was intended to be introduced
Agreed. Sprint weekend is not a great weekend to bring updates. One practice is not a lot of data to collect.
Taking upgrades to a sprint weekend is why McLaren have a race win this season, albeit with favourable circumstances. Shocked it's been one win only.

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scuderiabrandon wrote:
27 Jun 2024, 22:33
codetower wrote:
27 Jun 2024, 21:49
organic wrote:
27 Jun 2024, 20:53


Might be remaining 20% at Silverstone since that was when the package was intended to be introduced
Agreed. Sprint weekend is not a great weekend to bring updates. One practice is not a lot of data to collect.
Taking upgrades to a sprint weekend is why McLaren have a race win this season, albeit with favourable circumstances. Shocked it's been one win only.
Giving the full package to only 1 driver though. Imagine the uproar if another team did that...
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scuderiabrandon wrote:
27 Jun 2024, 22:33
Taking upgrades to a sprint weekend is why McLaren have a race win this season, albeit with favourable circumstances. Shocked it's been one win only.
But reason why Maclaren win its SC, they pace in quali was bad (most likely due to small amount of practice), without luck with sc, it was was Max win for sure.
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yooogurt wrote:
27 Jun 2024, 22:55
scuderiabrandon wrote:
27 Jun 2024, 22:33
Taking upgrades to a sprint weekend is why McLaren have a race win this season, albeit with favourable circumstances. Shocked it's been one win only.
But reason why Maclaren win its SC, they pace in quali was bad (most likely due to small amount of practice), without luck with sc, it was was Max win for sure.
The qualifying pace was good, neither driver could do a good lap, whatever the reason may be. Lando was quicker on the medium in SQ2 than everyone else on the soft.

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yooogurt wrote:
27 Jun 2024, 22:55
scuderiabrandon wrote:
27 Jun 2024, 22:33
Taking upgrades to a sprint weekend is why McLaren have a race win this season, albeit with favourable circumstances. Shocked it's been one win only.
But reason why Maclaren win its SC, they pace in quali was bad (most likely due to small amount of practice), without luck with sc, it was was Max win for sure.
Not only would it have been a Max win but there's a strong likelihood Lando would have rejoined the track behind both Ferrari's after his pit stop with no guarantee he would have got past them let alone Max.

That's not to say Lando wasn't the quickest driver with the quickest car because he was, but quicker cars often times have to be quite a bit quicker to pass cars in front of them and Lando showed earlier in the race before the safety car which put him P1 that he wasn't able to pass.

If there's anything that weekend highlighted, it is how the starting race position is becoming ever more important now that it's a lot tighter between teams and overtaking seems to be getting harder again.
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scuderiabrandon wrote:
27 Jun 2024, 23:03
The qualifying pace was good, neither driver could do a good lap, whatever the reason may be. Lando was quicker on the medium in SQ2 than everyone else on the soft.
But Charle and Max did a good laps in q, no?
I mean if iirc, McLaren struggled with soft tires in both quali, and its sound like not optimal setup.
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Austria might suit better right? Was it the long corners Sainz said was killing them?

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Mansell89 wrote:
28 Jun 2024, 00:13
Austria might suit better right? Was it the long corners Sainz said was killing them?
I would think so. They went well there last year despite the SF-23's weaknesses in similar situations. But, every time I think the car should do well, it does the opposite. :lol:

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Charles already saying he feels like he has no grid in slow speed.

Long runs looked quite good tho, matching or faster than Norris and both Mercs.