McLaren MP4-29 Mercedes

[mclaren_mircea]

http://www.planet-f1.com/driver/3213/91 ... s-eyebrows

"According to the Auto Motor und Sport report, though, FIA gave the McLaren "the green light" to continue with their design at some point last season."

[Chuckjr]

Personally I would be surprised if we see those paddles on any circuit, I guess that the drag penalty is just too high for anything like Monza but if it works it will be used in the street races. If the L/D is too inefficient it will be a bigger penalty then in the former F1 periods as those were not as fuel-limited. In this sense downforce efficiency is in general more important then ever.

With all due respect, I don't understand why Macca would go to the trouble of hundreds, if not thousands of man hours figuring a way to get the suspension arms so incredibly far back that you could puff them up and they would look just like that…and then not use them ever in the season one time.

Edit: not to mention the entire flow of the side pods is shaped to exit right above them!!

[Avocado]

Personally I would be surprised if we see those paddles on any circuit, I guess that the drag penalty is just too high for anything like Monza but if it works it will be used in the street races. If the L/D is too inefficient it will be a bigger penalty then in the former F1 periods as those were not as fuel-limited. In this sense downforce efficiency is in general more important then ever.

LOL, you can't be serious.

[Steven]

https://twitter.com/f1technical/status/ ... 2214161408

[the EDGE]

https://twitter.com/f1technical/status/ ... 2214161408

That makes sense, if they give it a name it stops becoming suspension and could therefore be banned

[Manoah2u]

are we seeing a doubledecker floor here?

[zioture]

I drew the "Butterfly McLaren"
I'm not sure how the section in the lower part

[charlex]

Adrian Newey (sky sports GB):
"...it seems there are 8 items for suspension, of which only 6 are allowed. In addition, there are clear rules for the width of the suspension".

[Crabbia]

that suspension is a tricky thing:

They will provide more grip due to increased downforce.
With more grip the car is putting the power down more efficiently. So efficiency goes up with respect to torque being delivered to the track.

This advantage can't be underestimated since the electric motors are as powerful as they are this season.

Drag goes up, unsprung mass goes up.

This is far riskier in my opinion than Ferrari going to a pull rod front. Bigger risk, but bigger reward.

Its a complicated win loss win equation.

[i70q7m7ghw]

I drew the "Butterfly McLaren"
I'm not sure how the section in the lower part
http://www.newsf1.it/wp-content/uploads ... claren.jpg

This isn't the profile IMO. I don't think that would be legal.

[turbof1]

that suspension is a tricky thing:

They will provide more grip due to increased downforce.
With more grip the car is putting the power down more efficiently. So efficiency goes up with respect to torque being delivered to the track.

This advantage can't be underestimated since the electric motors are as powerful as they are this season.

Drag goes up, unsprung mass goes up.

This is far riskier in my opinion than Ferrari going to a pull rod front. Bigger risk, but bigger reward.

Its a complicated win loss win equation.

I was thinking in the same lines. It'll create drag, how much is difficult to tell at this point, but if it brings a considerable advantage in rear downforce, they can bring the throttle much harder to the wheels before wheel spin steps in. This way they'll have an acceleration advantage too.

I'm unsure though how this suspension influences mechanical grip.

[i70q7m7ghw]

Adrian Newey (sky sports GB):
"...it seems there are 8 items for suspension, of which only 6 are allowed. In addition, there are clear rules for the width of the suspension".

Uh... Is that right? 4 wish bones, 2 track rods, 2 pull/push rods... that's 8 parts... How could you build a suspension with 6?

[charlex]

Adrian Newey (sky sports GB):
"...it seems there are 8 items for suspension, of which only 6 are allowed. In addition, there are clear rules for the width of the suspension".

Uh... Is that right? 4 wish bones, 2 track rods, 2 pull/push rods... that's 8 parts... How could you build a suspension with 6?

ask newey...maybe he could help you lol
http://www.f1times.co.uk/news/display/08460

[zioture]

I drew the "Butterfly McLaren"
I'm not sure how the section in the lower part
http://www.newsf1.it/wp-content/uploads ... claren.jpg

This isn't the profile IMO. I don't think that would be legal.

How you think it is?
I drew the top looking at the picture
I do not know how it is under...

[Juzh]

Adrian Newey (sky sports GB):
"...it seems there are 8 items for suspension, of which only 6 are allowed. In addition, there are clear rules for the width of the suspension".

Uh... Is that right? 4 wish bones, 2 track rods, 2 pull/push rods... that's 8 parts... How could you build a suspension with 6?

His quote was taken out of context because charlex didn't post entire response from Newey:
"I have not seen the photos but as it is described, it sounds as though there are eight suspension elements, where only six are allowed. Moreover, there are clear rules for the width of the suspension."