Lol. RB was barely a couple tenths quicker with the 19 last year. What are you saying
Things change too fast in F1. I hope Max has a clear, DNF-free way to another title. But fingers crossed.chrisc90 wrote: ↑21 Oct 2024, 18:155 races and lando needs 58 points (given lando needs to be ahead). 11.6points average per race. 2 more sprint races.Vettel165 wrote: ↑21 Oct 2024, 16:19If Max ends ahead of Lando in the next 3 races he is WDC again with 2 races to go. All can happen of course, Red Bull should take 1 race at the time. Just focus on being ahead of Lando, which is easier said than done.
In Mexico Max is usually very strong if he has the car, Brasil if the rain comes we need his magic as in Spa this year.All to play, 5 races to go/57 points lead.
I imagine the WDC will be decided in Qatar tbh.
Lando effectively needs to win each race, and Max can finish 4th.
Mega points difference to overhaul
Also we can count Spa as quite high altitude track with nearly 500 m above the sea level. And there he dominated Q3 this year. A shame they have taken a penalty there and not in Monza.Bill wrote: ↑21 Oct 2024, 17:31that advantage is still their mercedes never solved their high-altitude problem .max blitz's the field in Austria in quali for example. the honda marginally have best ers and that will be amplified these weekend.max has never really been beaten at these track. the only time is when he was penalized for not obeying yellow flags due to bottas.
I mean... we can't even see clearly within a weekend. Performance levels change so much from day to day, sometimes even from session to session. At this point I can imagine any scenario from great success to absolute failure in Mexico, and I'm not even sure which one is more likely.
Mclaren and [upgraded]Ferrari were the outright best cars in every of the past 4 race weekends. It was close enough between them for either team to win any of those 4 races. Execution mostly and tiny little details as they says dictated the outcome. Red bull was 3rd best except for Monza. So nothing has changed, and nothing changes, let alone quickly.Paa wrote: ↑21 Oct 2024, 23:59I mean... we can't even see clearly within a weekend. Performance levels change so much from day to day, sometimes even from session to session. At this point I can imagine any scenario from great success to absolute failure in Mexico, and I'm not even sure which one is more likely.
Hmm... I understand my folly.dialtone wrote: ↑21 Oct 2024, 19:05That's not how it works.venkyhere wrote: ↑21 Oct 2024, 17:14As the laps tick by :
a) the car is expected to gain performance from loss of fuel mass
b) the car is expected to lose performance as reducing fuel mass means the ride height increases and downforce reduces
c) the car is expected to lose performance from tyre degradation/graining-phase etc
(a) correct
(b) not correct, in fact the opposite
(c) correct
Fuel mass is only 100kg tops out of 800kg from the mass of the car plus all the downforce which is at least comparable to the weight of the car at high speed.
Over and over you see cars going faster through corners with less fuel onboard, they slide less due to less centrifugal force/inertia (Q=mv and m is decreasing) and, and since they go faster they generate more downforce through the corner which results in them being also lower on the ground.
Kerb riding was massive issue in Mexico last year, it's a matter of fact. Red bull were losing time even to Alpha Tauri in the 1st chicane consistently (which obviously have nothing to do with understeer), because they couldn't attack those high kerbs as hard. That's why by the way Daniel was so close in qualifying. It's normally less of an issue in race mode but definitely will hamper qualifying performance.
Then why don't you write the approx pecking order for qualy and race now? And we can check back after the weekend to see how simple it was?avantman wrote: ↑22 Oct 2024, 08:03Mclaren and [upgraded]Ferrari were the outright best cars in every of the past 4 race weekends. It was close enough between them for either team to win any of those 4 races. Execution mostly and tiny little details as they says dictated the outcome. Red bull was 3rd best except for Monza. So nothing has changed, and nothing changes, let alone quickly.Paa wrote: ↑21 Oct 2024, 23:59I mean... we can't even see clearly within a weekend. Performance levels change so much from day to day, sometimes even from session to session. At this point I can imagine any scenario from great success to absolute failure in Mexico, and I'm not even sure which one is more likely.
I've been writing enough, question is, were you paying attention?
I said a month ago, Red bull has the 3rd best car and this won't change till the end of the season (unless Mercedes pit their sh*t together which makes RBR 4th best), with or without Austin hyped-up upgrades. I also wrote after the Sprint quali on Saturday that COTA Sprint might be the last race [sort of] Max might win this year. He won it few hours later. When so many members were hyping up these results, I saw that both Mclaren and Ferrari were still faster cars and they will change their setup for Sunday, there won't be a chance for Max to win the Grand prix. This turned out to be true as well. Everyone could see red bull even driven by Max was unquestionably distant 3rd best car having again far more tire deg (front mostly of course, which is a weakness all season) on both compounds.