COVID-19 could affect more races this year.

[Pyrone89]

I have no doubt that quarantine works but I don't see what that has to do with trusting China to tell the truth about this or anything for that matter.

What is the nature of the manipulation you belive what might be going on with china's numbers?

Simply not testing or intentionally reporting wrong number externally

[nzjrs]

I have no doubt that quarantine works but I don't see what that has to do with trusting China to tell the truth about this or anything for that matter.

What is the nature of the manipulation you belive what might be going on with china's numbers?

Simply not testing or intentionally reporting wrong number externally

Sorry im asking to be very specific on the type of under reporting.

[Pyrone89]

What is the nature of the manipulation you belive what might be going on with china's numbers?

Simply not testing or intentionally reporting wrong number externally

Sorry im asking to be very specific on the type of under reporting.

I doubt members of China’s government frequent this forum and are willing to divulge that

[nzjrs]

Simply not testing or intentionally reporting wrong number externally

Sorry im asking to be very specific on the type of under reporting.

I doubt members of China’s government frequent this forum and are willing to divulge that

Come on, be logical. We have the initial estimates, the growth rates and testing percentages, cases, etc. We have the comparison to other countries and we have the steps taken. Be very clear with what type of misreporting you think is going on.

I don't have a position on china's data other than a scientific one - so Form a testable hypothesis please

[strad]

[nzjrs]

How mature.

[Pyrone89]

Sorry im asking to be very specific on the type of under reporting.

I doubt members of China’s government frequent this forum and are willing to divulge that

Come on, be logical. We have the initial estimates, the growth rates and testing percentages, cases, etc. We have the comparison to other countries and we have the steps taken. Be very clear with what type of misreporting you think is going on.

I don't have a position on china's data other than a scientific one - so Form a testable hypothesis please

I am calling the big leader first thing tomorrow

[nzjrs]

I am calling the big leader first thing tomorrow

For the adults in the room who appreciate F1 isn't the only topic for modeling and (nod at Ferarri PU thread) from which one can hypothisize types of measurement (cheating) error, I encourage you to read this: http://nrg.cs.ucl.ac.uk/mjh/covid19/

One can particularly take the effort to think about how different types of reporting and definition bias might appear either absolutely or comparatively in the data - as the author does at numerous points.

[Sombrero]

Ross Brawn spoke of 17-18 GP this year which is very optimistic with no european F-1 races at all.

There will be no Indianapolis 500 in May and no 24 hours of Le Mans in June for sure. Hard time for motorsport in 2020.

[Big Tea]

Ross Brawn spoke of 17-18 GP this year which is very optimistic with no european F-1 races at all.

There will be no Indianapolis 500 in May and no 24 hours of Le Mans in June for sure. Hard time for motorsport in 2020.

I suspect many countries will not want hundreds of Europeans swanning around if they do not have troubles of their own. I doubt half that number will actually happen.

[JonoNic]

Simply not testing or intentionally reporting wrong number externally

Sorry im asking to be very specific on the type of under reporting.

I doubt members of China’s government frequent this forum and are willing to divulge that

So you are doubting China's numbers? They still have over 3000 patients who are critical. Many of those will die in the coming days. I'm in a city that is under semi-lockdown, yet our temperature being taken every time we leave or return since mid January. Every store has a QR code that you scan at the entrance or you will not be allowed to enter. This makes it's easy to retrace someone who was diagnosed positive and find out who they may have exposed. I'm not Chinese but I am impressed by how they have actively tried to stop the spread here.

[LM10]

To whoever rated my post negatively with the comment that I don’t know the basics of herd immunity: I’m glad you and the British government are the only smart people in the world knowing it and going for it. They’ve found out the cheat code.

[Pyrone89]

Sorry im asking to be very specific on the type of under reporting.

I doubt members of China’s government frequent this forum and are willing to divulge that

So you are doubting China's numbers? They still have over 3000 patients who are critical. Many of those will die in the coming days. I'm in a city that is under semi-lockdown, yet our temperature being taken every time we leave or return since mid January. Every store has a QR code that you scan at the entrance or you will not be allowed to enter. This makes it's easy to retrace someone who was diagnosed positive and find out who they may have exposed. I'm not Chinese but I am impressed by how they have actively tried to stop the spread here.

I think China wants to give the appearance 'everything' is ok now to avoid a big economic disaster which may cause political upheaval (read: removal of the 1 party system). Wether or not we approve of that as Westerners is a different matter. Perhaps they have a better approach because we seem intent on crashing our economies by the 'war like' reporting in the media.

Now with regards to the actual measures they are taking: I think they are doing it best, but even this 'best approach' produces numbers that are ugly. And they desperately needed to restart the factories to avoid the above mentioned.

That is why people doubt the numbers (not just me). And for your information: I am also doubting the numbers of Iran, North Korea, Turkey, Africa (lack of testing)

[mmred]

To whoever rated my post negatively with the comment that I don’t know the basics of herd immunity: I’m glad you and the British government are the only smart people in the world knowing it and going for it. They’ve found out the cheat code.

I don't think every Brit supports that madness

[mmred]

I doubt members of China’s government frequent this forum and are willing to divulge that

So you are doubting China's numbers? They still have over 3000 patients who are critical. Many of those will die in the coming days. I'm in a city that is under semi-lockdown, yet our temperature being taken every time we leave or return since mid January. Every store has a QR code that you scan at the entrance or you will not be allowed to enter. This makes it's easy to retrace someone who was diagnosed positive and find out who they may have exposed. I'm not Chinese but I am impressed by how they have actively tried to stop the spread here.

I think China wants to give the appearance 'everything' is ok now to avoid a big economic disaster which may cause political upheaval (read: removal of the 1 party system). Wether or not we approve of that as Westerners is a different matter. Perhaps they have a better approach because we seem intent on crashing our economies by the 'war like' reporting in the media.

Now with regards to the actual measures they are taking: I think they are doing it best, but even this 'best approach' produces numbers that are ugly. And they desperately needed to restart the factories to avoid the above mentioned.

That is why people doubt the numbers (not just me). And for your information: I am also doubting the numbers of Iran, North Korea, Turkey, Africa (lack of testing)

The idea that anything could menace china political system Is ingenuos imho.
Therefore all the comparison china Europe becomes useless.

Some numbers May Be inaccurate. Even in Europe tried to postpone and protect their economy