2021 British Grand Prix - Silverstone, July 16 - 18

[gibells]

Weekend precedent set by giving George a 3 place grid penalty for causing a collision. Irrespective of the details of the case.

[Mattyw]

Interesting to see the lines when you compare the crash to wellington straight just prior - Ham ahead, Max inside.

Not arguing with you at all, but in what you are saying, max should have yielded when they entered luffield as he was slightly behind and on the inside. It's a really difficult call no matter what side you take.

I can’t judge either as can’t see the lines that were taken but ham could have turned in at the end of Wellington as he was in front but he yielded to Max on the inside but this situation didn’t happen for the crash so I’d just be interested to see a comparison of the lines taken that’s all.

[dans79]

Was he going towards apex or was he wide?
It's an honest question.

Are you asking about max, or lewis?

Lewis.
IMO If he was going for apex - no penalty. If he wasn't then penalty. After the contact he went really wide, but I don't know if that was his "planned" line, or consequence of the contact.

Lewis was first on the brakes, which is why Max pulled ahead in the braking zone. From the replay I saw, it looked like Lewis was going to go tight in, wide out.

I don't know if you would have been right on the Apex but he probably would have been close because he was going slower.

After the impact nothing matters for either driver because that impact screwed up both of their trajectories.

[cooken]

The definition for alongside is for up to and into the braking point, not mid corner. Might be good to keep that in mind.


Anyone claiming Hamilton wasn't alongside is either too emotional right now or just plain stupid.

[GOAT]

Instead he pushes Lewis right, swings left, and then dives into the apex.

What? Max dives into the apex?
Seriously?!

Max leaves like a Grand Canyon of space on the inside for Lewis..

Lewis isn’t able to put his car on the apex and therefor hits Max- 100% Lewis to blame, he took the risk of crashing out.

[El Scorchio]

I think the FIA has been trending towards consequence based penalties for a while, so I'd expect a penalty here.

(Not my position, just and observation)

I wouldn’t be surprised either. If it was a concrete run off area with ‘just’ a pirouette then there might not be one at all. Purely because this was so spectacular it might be seen differently.

[max_speed]

When sky team says max 5 second penalty for hamilton. Stewards should hand race ban because sky is always gonna take hamilton side.they are the most biased commentary team ever and hamilton is their god.

[Skywalker12]

Looking at the consequences it must be a black flag for lewis, anything else is a joke.

[Just_a_fan]

No doubt we will hear, Ham: “if you no longer go for a gap that exists you are no longer a racing driver because we are competing.”

Will this be the end of the respect between the two.

I think Max will be a touch more circumspect around Hamilton in future. Up till now, Lewis has given Max lots of room because Lewis was in title fights and Max wasn't. Now they're fighting each other and Max is ahead, Lewis won't be quite so easy to bully.

[proteus]

Lewis was alongside on the strait, that means Max has to leave room he can't just turn in on someone.

He was alongside and he hit his rear tyre.

To me alongside means front wheel along front wheel.

That's not what the rules say. I can't remember the specific rule off the top of my head but if any part of your car is alongside you are entitled to space. so if your front Wing is a long his back tire you're entitled to space

If he is in your blind spot, how are you supposed to see him?

[Xero]

Racing incident all day long. Hamilton earned some space, and both drivers didn't give each other enough. Watched it loads of times now, Lewis missed the apex, Max turned towards the apex. Both to blame.

You can see on the sky pad that VER gave HAM room by reducing the steering angle. He absolutely gave HAM space as he knew he was there. Except HAM did nothing with the extra space and kept it tight with VER. To me it’s deliberately placing a car in a place on track to cause a collision.

Max did indeed make an initial adjustment to give Hamilton space, but when it came to the turn in you can see Max's line pinched towards the apex. At the same time Lewis didn't make the apex, contact was inevitable. I've no affinity towards Lewis, a penalty would do my McLaren boys a treat, but its a racing incident for me.

[Juzh]

Can leclerc hold hamilton off for more than a single drs attack? Don't think so. If he survives a restart it's already a miracle.

[Mogster]

Instead he pushes Lewis right, swings left, and then dives into the apex.

What? Max dives into the apex?
Seriously?!

Max leaves like a Grand Canyon of space on the inside for Lewis..

Lewis isn’t able to put his car on the apex and therefor hits Max- 100% Lewis to blame, he took the risk of crashing out.

The impact with Max’s rear straightens Lewis’s steering, that’s why he ends up in the middle of the track.

Not sure Max would have made the corner.

[Hoffman900]

Instead he pushes Lewis right, swings left, and then dives into the apex.

What? Max dives into the apex?
Seriously?!

Max leaves like a Grand Canyon of space on the inside for Lewis..

Lewis isn’t able to put his car on the apex and therefor hits Max- 100% Lewis to blame, he took the risk of crashing out.

Sorry man, but you’re wrong.

I love how “fans” are more emotional about this than the drivers likely are. You guys need to find some balance in life…

Lewis ended up wide due to impact. Ever drive a car without power steering and make contact? Hope your thumbs are wrapped in the wheel!

[dans79]

Instead he pushes Lewis right, swings left, and then dives into the apex.

What? Max dives into the apex?
Seriously?!

Max leaves like a Grand Canyon of space on the inside for Lewis..

Lewis isn’t able to put his car on the apex and therefor hits Max- 100% Lewis to blame, he took the risk of crashing out.

From the overhead view they showed on sky pad at the point of impact there was room, but Max was still aiming for the Apex.