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[taperoo2k]

In the meantime I feel so annoyed seeing some people justifying dirty driving and blaming the whole incident to Norris. If the stewards have done their job better and sent Max to a small vacation of two races to cool off then perhaps Horner and them would have stopped talking.

He would have to do something truly abhorrent to be banned from even one race, even though Red Bull would appeal.

The best thing the FIA can do is apply the rules fairly. Otherwise, expect to see more crashes.

All the FIA they managed to do now is create an explosive atmosphere by not giving actual punishments and they are coming to Silverstone now in the heart of England. What do you think it might happen?

As far as the FIA are concerned, Norris got a 5 second penalty for track limits and Max got a 10 second penalty, job done. Liberty media will be loving it, as it'll get eyes on the product.

Even better. What's stopping Mclaren apart from the moral high ground to use Oscar as a kamikaze against Max since most of them are racing incidents or 10 secs at most.

No team in their right mind would put drivers at risk to take another driver out. McLaren will just have to use both drivers to hustle Max into a mistake or keep him behind long enough to let the other McLaren driver to build up a healthy lead.

Anyway Norris and McLaren are on a steep learning curve going up against Red Bull, they are too far behind in both championships to beat RBR (unless something happens), but it should put them in a good place should they have the car to challenge for title next season and in '26. I think that's what people forget, this is a new version of McLaren that has a winning heritage but is relearning what it takes to win.

[Darth-Piekus]

That's the thing though. Red Bull didnt hesitate to use Perez to drive dirty against Hamilton so Max would close the gap in Abu Dhabi 2021. The worst was that turn where he sent Hamilton to the wall and took it as slow as possible. If Red Bull doesnt have any morals to use any tactics to win then why should Mclaren respect a team that doesnt respect F1.

[McLarenMor]

That's the thing though. Red Bull didnt hesitate to use Perez to drive dirty against Hamilton so Max would close the gap in Abu Dhabi 2021. The worst was that turn where he sent Hamilton to the wall and took it as slow as possible. If Red Bull doesnt have any morals to use any tactics to win then why should Mclaren respect a team that doesnt respect F1.

Perez should have been shown the black flag for that, this was one of the most unsportsmanlike things I have seen in F1 in the last few decades.

And in general the FIA should remember that they have that thing called black flag, I can think of a number of instances it should have been shown in the last few years, it's a legitimate way of discipline and the one on the receiving end of it will not do the same mistake again.

Meaningless time penalties that drop you at best a couple of places and cost a few points, and fines in the tens or hundreds( super rarely) of thousands of euros to multi-billion corporations are a joke at best.

If we are honest, for years the sport is not govern on the track, there are inconsistencies, bad calls (how you can do that with tens of cameras and sensors it's beyond me), lagging calls, revolving door stewards and much more. This is the most urgent matter to be handled and it ruins the sport to it's core ,for example not following your own black and white written rulebook in 2021 safety-car debacle with 0 consequences, or giving track limits penalty while losing time and gaining no advantage, really??

Stewards must be ex-drivers, have the same X number of races they govern every year, where they are familiar with every cm of the track. It really feels like it's all a guess game in the stewards room.

[Darth-Piekus]

Indeed. For example why in the GP of Zadvoort not having a full team of former drivers from the 70s and 80s that know every single part of the circuit? In most of the old GPs they could do that.

If you think of it Michael Schumacher was disqualified from the championship in 1997 for just one collision on purpose. It would be totally fair if Max gained a 2 race ban for his actions to cool off, see Norris reducing the difference by 50 points and then come back hopefully with a better attitude. Then Red Bull will also understand that there are limits and rules. As long as they tolerate this behavior it will happen again and again.

[FittingMechanics]

Lando cooling things down a bit: https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/norri ... /10630905/

But he says he wouldn't change what he did. Good call. Hold your ground.

[chrisc90]

Lando cooling things down a bit: https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/norri ... /10630905/

But he says he wouldn't change what he did. Good call. Hold your ground.

Lando will need to learn that the race isnt made in one lap or corner.

Sometimes the old saying..... "patience is a virtue" is a key point to take from things.

[Tomsky]

Lando cooling things down a bit: https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/norri ... /10630905/

But he says he wouldn't change what he did. Good call. Hold your ground.

Lando will need to learn that the race isnt made in one lap or corner.

Sometimes the old saying..... "patience is a virtue" is a key point to take from things.

Let Max learn this. Lando will not turn away.

[Watto]

Lando cooling things down a bit: https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/norri ... /10630905/

But he says he wouldn't change what he did. Good call. Hold your ground.

Lando will need to learn that the race isnt made in one lap or corner.

Sometimes the old saying..... "patience is a virtue" is a key point to take from things.

I think Max did too in a video after he sat down and watched the replays I saw. Don't think he quite saw it as he was completely at fault for it all but think he did seem to have a far softer view compared to straight after the race.

[venkyhere]

Lando cooling things down a bit: https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/norri ... /10630905/

But he says he wouldn't change what he did. Good call. Hold your ground.

Lando will need to learn that the race isnt made in one lap or corner.

Sometimes the old saying..... "patience is a virtue" is a key point to take from things.

He tried. For almost 10 laps back to back, that's 30 DRS tows. He did show patience.

[LionsHeart]

Silverstone is forecasting British weather. Rain all weekend. Temperatures 17-18 Celsius. Highest chance on Friday, lowest on Saturday.

[FittingMechanics]

Lando cooling things down a bit: https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/norri ... /10630905/

But he says he wouldn't change what he did. Good call. Hold your ground.

Lando will need to learn that the race isnt made in one lap or corner.

Sometimes the old saying..... "patience is a virtue" is a key point to take from things.

I'm sure Verstappen would not have shown as much patience as Lando did.

You will need to learn that you are not objective when it comes to Verstappen. Best not to continue to bring up things on McLaren thread.

[Seerix]

It's kinda funny when I see people saying "Lando needs to learn". Why would he need to learn? It's the same for VER. Next time if they crash, maybe VER will retire and Lando will win. Max needs to learn just as much and to reconsider his crash prone approach when wheel to wheel racing.
Just hold your ground, if Max wants to crash, so be it.

[chrisc90]

Lando cooling things down a bit: https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/norri ... /10630905/

But he says he wouldn't change what he did. Good call. Hold your ground.

Lando will need to learn that the race isnt made in one lap or corner.

Sometimes the old saying..... "patience is a virtue" is a key point to take from things.

I'm sure Verstappen would not have shown as much patience as Lando did.

You will need to learn that you are not objective when it comes to Verstappen. Best not to continue to bring up things on McLaren thread.

Lando was still upset about losing the sprint to Max. Lando said it. He always seems to take things too much to heart when he didn’t win.

We will see what happens over the next half of the season if they all are still battling at the front.

Ps:- attack the post, not the poster

[FittingMechanics]

Lando was still upset about losing the sprint to Max. Lando said it. He always seems to take things too much to heart when he didn’t win.

We will see what happens over the next half of the season if they all are still battling at the front.

Ps:- attack the post, not the poster

Coming to a McLaren thread saying Lando needs to learn to let Verstappen push him off track is what? A good post? Please.

Yes, Lando could have gone wide, maybe get another penalty for off track and accept being second, but he chose not to. And that is a good decision. Verstappen does not have right to push people off track and if he wants to do it, so be it. We will see how Red Bull like that when other teams start to outscore Red Bull because their only real point scorer gets damage due to being uncompromising.

[LionsHeart]

Lando will need to learn that the race isnt made in one lap or corner.

Sometimes the old saying..... "patience is a virtue" is a key point to take from things.

I'm sure Verstappen would not have shown as much patience as Lando did.

You will need to learn that you are not objective when it comes to Verstappen. Best not to continue to bring up things on McLaren thread.

Lando was still upset about losing the sprint to Max. Lando said it. He always seems to take things too much to heart when he didn’t win.

We will see what happens over the next half of the season if they all are still battling at the front.

Ps:- attack the post, not the poster

Any proof? I read his comments after the Sprint race. And I didn't see Lando upset. I even double-checked it now to make sure. Or are your words based on Christian Horner's words? But these are just his thoughts, not Lando's words. To a certain extent, Lando was unhappy with how he drove, but he was not upset. So yes, you are not objective.