2013 British GP - Silverstone

[raymondu999]

What interests me in that selection is that with them having supersofts and softs in Hungary 2011, softs and mediums in Hungary 2012 and mediums and hards this year - then assuming Pirelli move down 1 step in softness every year, then we have a unique opportunity to compare the three years on roughly "equal" terms.

[SectorOne]

Medium and Hards for Silverstone should bode well for Mercedes and Lotus i think.
If it´s a bit chill.

[raymondu999]

Medium and Hards for Silverstone should bode well for Mercedes and Lotus i think.
If it´s a bit chill.

Interesting. Why do you choose those two cars? They're probably the two cars on opposite ends of the "tyre use" spectrum

[iotar__]

Medium and Hards for Silverstone should bode well for Mercedes and Lotus i think.
If it´s a bit chill.

Not according to Lotus :
Lotus criticise Pirelli over ‘very conservative’ tyre choices
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/22905355
"Lotus's Alan Permane said the decision to take the medium and hard tyres to Hungary was "very conservative"."

They also had relative problems with mediums before. About Hungary it's a bit weird, no overtaking track and fixed number of two or three stops.

[SectorOne]

I was writing a post but iotar posted before me so i kinda deleted that but in short,

I think the colder conditions and harder compound will play into Mercs hands more.
And i think the Mediums will be key for Lotus, and probably be their main compound in the race whereas other teams probably would want to get off them as quickly as possible.

[MercedesAMG]

What interests me in that selection is that with them having supersofts and softs in Hungary 2011, softs and mediums in Hungary 2012 and mediums and hards this year - then assuming Pirelli move down 1 step in softness every year, then we have a unique opportunity to compare the three years on roughly "equal" terms.

So they have to develop a superhard one for 2014.

[raymondu999]

What interests me in that selection is that with them having supersofts and softs in Hungary 2011, softs and mediums in Hungary 2012 and mediums and hards this year - then assuming Pirelli move down 1 step in softness every year, then we have a unique opportunity to compare the three years on roughly "equal" terms.

So they have to develop a superhard one for 2014.

Any comparisons to next year would be useless in the first place. Second, no one is saying they have to have the same softness of compound next year - I'm highlighting a retrospective possibility, not a prospective possibility.

[Mika1]

With Merc's Q pace and the med/hard combination I think Merc can win the Hungarian Grand Prix.

[SectorOne]

What interests me in that selection is that with them having supersofts and softs in Hungary 2011, softs and mediums in Hungary 2012 and mediums and hards this year - then assuming Pirelli move down 1 step in softness every year, then we have a unique opportunity to compare the three years on roughly "equal" terms.

So they have to develop a superhard one for 2014.

Any comparisons to next year would be useless in the first place. Second, no one is saying they have to have the same softness of compound next year - I'm highlighting a retrospective possibility, not a prospective possibility.

He´s joking.

2011 - Soft
2012 - Medium
2013 - Hard
2014 - Super hard (joke)

[SilverArrow10]

With Merc's Q pace and the med/hard combination I think Merc can win the Hungarian Grand Prix.

That is definitely Hamilton territory as well. he's almost as good around there as he is in Canada. Still have doubts about what they can do in Silverstone though even though the tire choice does go in there favour.

[Mika1]

With Merc's Q pace and the med/hard combination I think Merc can win the Hungarian Grand Prix.

That is definitely Hamilton territory as well. he's almost as good around there as he is in Canada. Still have doubts about what they can do in Silverstone though even though the tire choice does go in there favour.

I don't expect much to be honest, tyre wear will be too high I guess. I hope they will shine in Hungary.

[ajdavison2]

2011 - Soft
2012 - Medium
2013 - Hard
2014 - Super hard (joke)

Sounds like how my nights out go:

2010: meet girl
2011 - Soft
2012 - Medium
2013 - Hard
2014 - Super hard
2015: girl goes home.

[godlameroso]

With Merc's Q pace and the med/hard combination I think Merc can win the Hungarian Grand Prix.

That is definitely Hamilton territory as well. he's almost as good around there as he is in Canada. Still have doubts about what they can do in Silverstone though even though the tire choice does go in there favour.

I don't expect much to be honest, tyre wear will be too high I guess. I hope they will shine in Hungary.

Last year the main tire was the soft, which is essentially the same this year. The only difference is the prime compound which is actually softer than last year's. I said it before and I stick by my story, I think Alonso is going to be very strong this race. To me it doesn't seem like the RB9 is much faster than last year's car, however the Ferrari is clearly faster than it's predecessor. Also the Ferrari has gone very well in Silverstone, Alonso dominated in 2011, nearly won last year, so this year I expect him to be thereabouts.

Given the nature of the circuit(a lot of the sweeping turns are similar to China) I expect Lotus to be up there again at least with the medium tire, the wear on this track is actually lower than in Malaysia but with the same type of high speed turns, and Mercedes did decent there.

[beelsebob]

Last year the main tire was the soft, which is essentially the same this year.

Nope, last year's supersoft is this year's soft. Last year's soft was a bit harder than this year's medium.

[godlameroso]

That's not what I meant, I meant that in the Silverstone race of 2012 most teams opted to run most of their stints on the option tire only using the prime for the last stint.

So since this year's compounds are medium and hard, the aggressiveness of the compounds is essentially the same as last year for the option and slightly softer for the prime.

My point in all of this is that last year the Ferrari was fine on the softer rubber but couldn't quite turn on the hard compound, this year the compound that gave Ferrari trouble last year is softer so probably won't pose a great task to bring it up to temperature.