2014 Singapore GP - Marina Bay, September 19-21

[Kingshark]

Also, if Rosberg wins this race and Vettel finishes 7th or lower, that would officially be the end of Vettel's WDC campaign.

[OblongCheese]

Mercedes 1-2 if they have no problems, with a Red Bull (likely Daniel) in third. I don't see Vettel outclassing Daniel here unless he has figured out his tyre usage problems since Monza. Vettel thermally degrades the tyres faster than Ricciardo and that is why Ricciardo can do amazing things like come third in SSilverstone and set his fastest lap of the race on the last lap in Spa.

[SiLo]

For the sake of people claiming Rosberg is some form of demigod around this track, Hamilton probably should have won in 2008, and retired from the lead in 2012. He won in 2009.

And I'm sure that's a statistic Vettel would love to hear!

[FW17]

2012 was his mistake in qualifying which damaged the gearbox

[SectorOne]

A wet race, under lights around the Marina Bay circuit is a worse-case scenario for organisers.
It raises safety issues around a circuit which already generates safety cars during racing, and would have an impact on television coverage - a point almost certainly not lost on the commercial rights holder.
To circumvent that problem the Singapore government has a rather unique solution - it seeds clouds in an effort to have the rain fall before it ever reaches Singapore.
It's a common practice in some parts, with planes flown into cloud systems (or rockets launched into them) before unloading salt (or silver iodine) into the atmosphere, helping provide crystals around which the moisture can condense and therefore triggering precipitation.
Cloud seeding was first discovered in the 1940s and has been used around the world since.
Last year the Singapore government confirmed it was working with the Indonesian government to seed clouds off the coast, to have the rain fall on a forest in Indonesia which was ablaze at the time.
Therefore, despite what you may read or hear this weekend, we are all but assured of a dry Grand Prix.

http://www.pitpass.com/52470/Dry-race-g ... -Singapore

[f1316]

For the sake of people claiming Rosberg is some form of demigod around this track, Hamilton probably should have won in 2008, and retired from the lead in 2012. He won in 2009.

And I'm sure that's a statistic Vettel would love to hear!

Where do you get 'should have won in 2008'? All things being equal, Massa was clearly quicker.

[SectorOne]

I think what it being alluded to is Hamilton was second, then Massa ran away with the fuel hose which gifted the lead to Hamilton so naturally he´s the guy that now "should" have won the race.
He then hit a wall later in the race which if there was no pit incident may or may not have cost him the lead. Just speculation though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzCxzDxRg4o

[mikeerfol]

Well like Webber says, "woulda, coulda, shoulda".

[SectorOne]

Agreed, i just tried to explain why Hamilton himself mentioned why he felt he should have won it.
If the leader is out then naturally the second guy is the one that "should" win the race, because he´s now leading the race.

[Kingshark]

For the sake of people claiming Rosberg is some form of demigod around this track, Hamilton probably should have won in 2008,

LOL. In 2008 Rosberg beat Hamilton around here in a much worse car.

Yes Nico did benefit from the safety car and Piquet incident, but the 10-second stop-and-go penalty neutralized his advantage. Lewis was driving an MP4/23, while Nico was driving an FW30 (which finished 8th in the WCC ffs) and Nico still came out on top.

[mkay]

For the sake of people claiming Rosberg is some form of demigod around this track, Hamilton probably should have won in 2008,

LOL. In 2008 Rosberg beat Hamilton around here in a much worse car.

Yes Nico did benefit from the safety car and Piquet incident, but the 10-second stop-and-go penalty neutralized his advantage. Lewis was driving an MP4/23, while Nico was driving an FW30 (which finished 8th in the WCC ffs) and Nico still came out on top.

Your point being?

Lewis finished a minute ahead in 2009 despite Rosberg starting 3rd (Lewis, 1st) and Nakajima (FFS!) outraced Rosberg in the end.

We can play this game all day long.

[SectorOne]

You must from here on end your comments with "mmkay?"
It´s an obligation with that username

[Kingshark]

For the sake of people claiming Rosberg is some form of demigod around this track, Hamilton probably should have won in 2008,

LOL. In 2008 Rosberg beat Hamilton around here in a much worse car.

Yes Nico did benefit from the safety car and Piquet incident, but the 10-second stop-and-go penalty neutralized his advantage. Lewis was driving an MP4/23, while Nico was driving an FW30 (which finished 8th in the WCC ffs) and Nico still came out on top.

Your point being?

Lewis finished a minute ahead in 2009 despite Rosberg starting 3rd (Lewis, 1st) and Nakajima (FFS!) outraced Rosberg in the end.

We can play this game all day long.

Before crossing the pitlane line, Rosberg was matching both Hamilton and Vettel on pace despite driving a weaker car.

As for 2012, where many praise Lewis for leading until his car conked. Let me remind ourselves that Nico finished P5 in a WO3, a car so bad that it didn't score a single point for the next 5 races.

Needless to say, I've never denied that Hamilton has been reasonably good around this circuit. It's just that Alonso and Rosberg have been more impressive than him.

[komninosm]

What's this I hear about limiting radio messages?
This is madness!

[SiLo]

Needless to say, I've never denied that Hamilton has been reasonably good around this circuit. It's just that Alonso and Rosberg have been more impressive than him.

I guess we don't have long to wait to find out who is really better around here! Unless one of the drivers has a reliability issue, which wouldn't be surprising.