2019 Renault F1 Team

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I hope Hulkenberg finally gets his podium this year. He is a good driver and that has alluded him for too long.

I think Ricciardo should be ahead ahead by a margin but I suppose we'll see next week.

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Hulk is definitely a class driver, I think he'll do well against Daniel, but I do expect Daniel to have an edge over him.
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Phil wrote:
01 Mar 2019, 15:02
Anyone else willing on betting that Hulkenberg will beat Daniel this year? I think it will be extremely close, but I for one am rooting for Nico. 8) :oops:
I think RIC will beat the Hulk fairly easily.
Hulkenberg has been around for a long time and is a quick and consistent driver, but he seems to lack that last bit of drive, that all or nothing attitude that certainly is needed to win races.

I think Renault will do well this year, maybe on par with RB points wise at the end of the season.

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It’s easy to look at Hulkenbergs record of no podiums after so many races and conclude he isn’t up to the top level but when you’ve raced for Williams, Force India, and a rebuilding Renault, he’s hardly been in a position to grab many of them.

He did well to drag some of those cars meat then podium!

He reminds me of Jenson Buttons career- you always felt there was serious talent in the locker but at one point it just never looked like things would align. Let’s hope Renault really make strides for both him and Ricciardo, two mighty fine drivers IMO.

Off topic- Hulk for me would have been a better choice for Mercedes than Bottas....

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Mansell89 wrote:
10 Mar 2019, 16:55
It’s easy to look at Hulkenbergs record of no podiums after so many races and conclude he isn’t up to the top level but when you’ve raced for Williams, Force India, and a rebuilding Renault, he’s hardly been in a position to grab many of them.

He did well to drag some of those cars meat then podium!

He reminds me of Jenson Buttons career- you always felt there was serious talent in the locker but at one point it just never looked like things would align. Let’s hope Renault really make strides for both him and Ricciardo, two mighty fine drivers IMO.

Off topic- Hulk for me would have been a better choice for Mercedes than Bottas....
Would be Daniel Ricciardo. He is a good team player and seems better than Hulk.

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Mansell89 wrote:
10 Mar 2019, 16:55
It’s easy to look at Hulkenbergs record of no podiums after so many races and conclude he isn’t up to the top level but when you’ve raced for Williams, Force India, and a rebuilding Renault, he’s hardly been in a position to grab many of them.

He did well to drag some of those cars meat then podium!

He reminds me of Jenson Buttons career- you always felt there was serious talent in the locker but at one point it just never looked like things would align. Let’s hope Renault really make strides for both him and Ricciardo, two mighty fine drivers IMO.

Off topic- Hulk for me would have been a better choice for Mercedes than Bottas....
Yes you're right. Maybe he didn't show enough when driving for the lesser teams but that's where most drivers begin their careers and get picked up to the top teams if good enough. I agree about him being like Button, he needs that magical stint of races that Button had in the first half of 2009 in the Brawn. Without that he'd probably never had unlocked that last bit in himself. That's not how you meant it but it is how I see it :mrgreen:
I think Hulk is like Kovalainen at the moment, I think the Renault pairing is the best on the grid, it'll be interesting to see how it all unfolds once we get past Melbourne...

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Highlights of Hulkenberg's career so far...

Won GP2 as a rookie (achievement shared only with Rosberg, Hamilton and Leclerc)
Put a Williams on Pole Brazil 2010
Overtook Hamilton's Mercedes in a Sauber and held position to finish 4th Korea 2013
Very close match for Perez across 3 seasons at Force India
Won 2015 Le Mans
Beat Sainz without difficulty in 2018

Hulkenberg is a very talented driver who hasn't quite caught the attention of a top team at the right time in the past, but at the same time he has a great position at Renault right now and I'm expecting him to do very well against Ricciardo.

Plus there are new rules concerning driver weight and ballast positioning for 2019 that will equalise the field for taller and heavier drivers like Hulkenberg, really this could be his best season yet.

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nokivasara wrote:
10 Mar 2019, 15:37


Hulkenberg has been around for a long time and is a quick and consistent driver, but he seems to lack that last bit of drive, that all or nothing attitude that certainly is needed to win races.
I think that drive will be apparent this year when he faces a driver as his team mate who is quite a bit above his pay grade and has a great track record with beating Vettel as a team mate and being a multiple race winner. Before that he arguably didnt and for most midfield teams, the win or crash mentality isnt really wanted given they are racing for points, money and survival.

I’d also argue that most drivers in top teams have been nurtured through the top teams in that kind of fashion, driving for B teams. Hulk never had that luxory.
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Hulkenberg is the guy everybody likes (okay not counting for Magnussen), he is a guy when you hear him say "I'm gonna go for 5th this race" you think ..... yeah nice, but not you Mr. Hulkenberg

But F1 isn't about being liked, it's about get yours and the cars best out of it, and i my opinion Hulkenberg has forgotten to do that somewhere along the way in F1.

Can he beat Daniel? yes but then he really need to be more for himself, don't let himself being dragged into these "likeable guy-game"
Verstappen did just that, on promo-days big friends etc. but when it was time to get results he dug himself into it and beaten Daniel (in quali and racepoints)

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Raleigh wrote:
10 Mar 2019, 21:08
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Plus there are new rules concerning driver weight and ballast positioning for 2019 that will equalise the field for taller and heavier drivers like Hulkenberg, really this could be his best season yet.
This part is interesting. Being a 5'6" 60kg driver is no longer the huge advantage it once was.

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Hulk missed most of FP1, yet immediately smashed Ricciardo's time when he finally came out, even though Ricciardo had done several timed runs.
Its possible that Ricciardo has made career stunting move. Its game over if Hulk beats him this season.

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GrandAxe wrote:Hulk missed most of FP1, yet immediately smashed Ricciardo's time when he finally came out, even though Ricciardo had done several timed runs.
Its possible that Ricciardo has made career stunting move. Its game over if Hulk beats him this season.
Way too early to have conclusions or create speculation, don’t you think? It is just FP1 at this point


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SmallSoldier wrote:
15 Mar 2019, 04:54
GrandAxe wrote:Hulk missed most of FP1, yet immediately smashed Ricciardo's time when he finally came out, even though Ricciardo had done several timed runs.
Its possible that Ricciardo has made career stunting move. Its game over if Hulk beats him this season.
Way too early to have conclusions or create speculation, don’t you think? It is just FP1 at this point


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Its never too early for speculation. Just that the possibility of being far of the mark is much higher.

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GrandAxe wrote:
15 Mar 2019, 04:46
Hulk missed most of FP1, yet immediately smashed Ricciardo's time when he finally came out, even though Ricciardo had done several timed runs.
Its possible that Ricciardo has made career stunting move. Its game over if Hulk beats him this season.
Considering we don't know what program Renault ran for each of their drivers, this kind of speculation is pretty silly!

Edit: I just watched Dan's fast lap on the red tyres and he had traffic issues from both Haas and Racing Point.
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Abiteboul unhappy with Toro Rosso’s performance
Cyril Abiteboul wrote:Abiteboul told Sky the rise of ‘B-team’ arrangements is “a problem” when asked by Sky.

“Just look at Toro Rosso, who in my opinion are likely to be the team to beat as far as we’re concerned for the start of the season given where we are,” said Abiteboul.

“Toro Rosso had no technical director for most of last season. It’s very clear what went on. So we don’t even need a technical director to produce what is a very competitive car. For us that’s a problem.”

The Renault boss said if F1 bosses do not restrict the opportunities for ‘B teams’ under new regulations being worked on for 2021, no new manufacturer teams will be able to enter the sport.

“For more there was a before and after Haas that has created a precedent. I’m not challenging, but I’m just saying how do we move forward for teams like us, like McLaren, like Williams?

“But also how does a manufacturer that’s not currently in Formula 1 that wants to be in Formula 1, how is it they will seriously contemplate reaching Formula 1 if that’s not possible to win without a B-team?

“For us that’s something we have to consider for the discussion for 2021. For ’19 and ’20 that’s gone now, we are gone with that type of set-up. But for 2021 I hope everyone realises how serious a question it is.”
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