Toto Wolff accused of leaking/receiving confidential information

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Wouter wrote:
06 Dec 2023, 17:20
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Lawrence Stroll and Domenicali are also friends. That's why he was invited on her wedding.

The photo's with other team principles are all work related NOT private!
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mcdenife wrote:
06 Dec 2023, 17:05
Wouter wrote:
06 Dec 2023, 16:01

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No, that is not what I am saying. Where do you read that?
Lawrence Stroll having a personal relationship with Domenicali is also a conflict of interest.
Non of the other teampricipals are personel friends of Domenicali.
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So from photos of Domenicali on Toto's boat and/or at Stroll's daughter's wedding, they are personal Friends (note I said personal relationship not personal Friends)? All the team principals, other F1 names, personalities socialize with each other outside of F1...including Toto and Horner. Because you come across a photo of Horner at Toto's son's wedding or birthday or other event (or LH on Max's plane even) does not make them friends let alone close friends, but it does mean they have a personal relationship outside of F1 and the same goes for other personalites within F1 and indeed in other spheres of life outside of F1. If you really tried I am sure you can find photos of any number of drivers at events organised by suppossedly bitter rivals/drivers/Team principals or other F1 personalities, it doesnt make them friends.
Putting all this to one side, how on earth would you know none of the team principal are 'personal friends' of Domenicali; They told you this? Or you just concluded; "if I have not seen any photo suggesting otherwise the must not have a relationship outside of F1 with Domenicali"?
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I am not going to repeat myself. Let's just agree to disagree.
What exactly is there to agree or disagree on?
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Luscion wrote:
06 Dec 2023, 17:21
I'd be very surprised if the Wolff's dont sue BusinessF1 if this turns out to have no substance behind it, which with this AMuS report seems to be the case, especially considering the article stated it as fact that Toto has a history of leaking confidential info he shouldnt have known and the mess it has caused.
Quite possible, depends on what happens next.

The rancour though is very very suspect. This all happened last year. I don't think RB or Merc have anything to gain from this nonsense.
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06 Dec 2023, 17:30
By the way AMuS have since heavily edited the article I originally quoted. Revisiting the original link will show this.

I think someone made a call with a bit of pressure placed on them :shock:
That might be because they don't want their asses sued. :lol:
If they report something third hand and implicitly name individuals and organisations, they're staring down the barrel.
If it's unverified it gets removed. With the budget cap breach last year AMuS kept their story up, very likely because they had it from authority.

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This is no laughing matter. It is quite serious, being taken serious and some very serious statements have been brought out. That serious that it did even raise my eyebrow.

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a bunch of teams have just released statements together and they all say they have made no complaint to the FIA

Red Bull




AlfaTauri




McLaren - https://www.mclaren.com/racing/formula- ... sie-wolff/


Aston Martin




Williams




Haas

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First Red Bull now Ferrari... If every team came out said this, where does this leave the FIA?
Edit McLaren, Aston Martin, Haas, Williams alongside Ferrari and RB now.

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All teams besides Alpine and AT posted the statement above as of writing this

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Wow the plot thickens… well that will narrow down who the snitch is.

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Hammerfist wrote:
06 Dec 2023, 19:46
Wow the plot thickens… well that will narrow down who the snitch is.
I think there is a good chance there is no snitch and it was all a ruse by Ben Sulaymen

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ValeVida46 wrote:
06 Dec 2023, 19:49
Hammerfist wrote:
06 Dec 2023, 19:46
Wow the plot thickens… well that will narrow down who the snitch is.
I think there is a good chance there is no snitch and it was all a ruse by Ben Sulaymen
Unbelievable if you are right.

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Alpha Tauri with the denial

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Hammerfist wrote:
06 Dec 2023, 19:50
ValeVida46 wrote:
06 Dec 2023, 19:49
Hammerfist wrote:
06 Dec 2023, 19:46
Wow the plot thickens… well that will narrow down who the snitch is.
I think there is a good chance there is no snitch and it was all a ruse by Ben Sulaymen
Unbelievable if you are right.
If Alpine comes up with a denial....

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Alpine as well, just Alfa Romeo left


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Well played F1 teams. :lol: =D>

Oops awaiting Alpha... :-?
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Ahh, Alfa is still missing