2025 Chinese Grand Prix [Shanghai] March 21-23

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Re: 2025 Chinese Grand Prix [Shanghai] March 21-23

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Nice comparison of HAM vs VER SQ3 lap


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Redbull strongest on the brakes as usual.
And ferrari brakes well over the years.
The cars are extremely close. It's almost perfectly random who gets on pole to be honest.
Ferrari seems to have that low speed traction like F175 but redbull has better front end.
It all comes out as different ways to get similar results.
Lewis has some interesting lines and this may be down to so many years of experience driving the track.
I predict a Max of Piastri sprint win. I dont think the Ferrari can hold Max behind.
Looking on the big picture, Max is likely to defend his championship. It's a good sign to always be in the top 3 regardless of the conditions.
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TNTHead wrote:
21 Mar 2025, 14:48
Nice comparison of HAM vs VER SQ3 lap

Nice, imagine how faster can Ferrari will be if Hamilton learn to brake better, its a whole new world for him so his result is super great.

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TNTHead wrote:
21 Mar 2025, 14:48
Nice comparison of HAM vs VER SQ3 lap

Finally ghosts !!
Very nicely done .. you can really see them different lines and braking.
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Will be exciting race to watch tomorrow. My guessing tomorrow we will see Mclaren on pole again.

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ringo wrote:
21 Mar 2025, 15:06
Redbull strongest on the brakes as usual.
And ferrari brakes well over the years.
The cars are extremely close. It's almost perfectly random who gets on pole to be honest.
Ferrari seems to have that low speed traction like F175 but redbull has better front end.
It all comes out as different ways to get similar results.
Lewis has some interesting lines and this may be down to so many years of experience driving the track.
I predict a Max of Piastri sprint win. I dont think the Ferrari can hold Max behind.
Looking on the big picture, Max is likely to defend his championship. It's a good sign to always be in the top 3 regardless of the conditions.
on board, it seems that Lewis's lap was quite easy and there is still enough time, Max's lap seems to have squeezed out the maximum from RB today, at least, I like Ferrari more, it should be taken into account that on Friday at the Australian Grand Prix, Ferrari was quite good in long races

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Downforce777 wrote:
21 Mar 2025, 15:42
ringo wrote:
21 Mar 2025, 15:06
Redbull strongest on the brakes as usual.
And ferrari brakes well over the years.
The cars are extremely close. It's almost perfectly random who gets on pole to be honest.
Ferrari seems to have that low speed traction like F175 but redbull has better front end.
It all comes out as different ways to get similar results.
Lewis has some interesting lines and this may be down to so many years of experience driving the track.
I predict a Max of Piastri sprint win. I dont think the Ferrari can hold Max behind.
Looking on the big picture, Max is likely to defend his championship. It's a good sign to always be in the top 3 regardless of the conditions.
on board, it seems that Lewis's lap was quite easy and there is still enough time, Max's lap seems to have squeezed out the maximum from RB today, at least, I like Ferrari more, it should be taken into account that on Friday at the Australian Grand Prix, Ferrari was quite good in long races
With heavier fuel load tomorrow, car balance will be different. We have seen that many time already

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I thought Lewis' S1 didn't even look that good on board.
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Pirelli has raised minimum tire pressure by 1 PSI. As expected, I guess, given the much faster track, but a bit unusual to happen under parc fermé.

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search wrote:
21 Mar 2025, 17:30
Pirelli has raised minimum tire pressure by 1 PSI. As expected, I guess, given the much faster track, but a bit unusual to happen under parc fermé.
Wait this was done after qualifying? I'm sure the teams will have fun with that.
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SiLo wrote:
21 Mar 2025, 17:34
search wrote:
21 Mar 2025, 17:30
Pirelli has raised minimum tire pressure by 1 PSI. As expected, I guess, given the much faster track, but a bit unusual to happen under parc fermé.
Wait this was done after qualifying? I'm sure the teams will have fun with that.
not 100% sure, but it was only announced after Qualifying, at least, and "following today's running" sounds like it:

"Pirelli already increased its minimum starting tyre pressures for this weekend by 1psi at the rear and 0.5psi at the front, to 23psi and 26.5psi respectively. Following today’s running it has increased both again, to 24psi and 27.5psi respectively."

https://www.racefans.net/2025/03/21/pir ... -graining/

https://www.fia.com/system/files/decisi ... iew_v2.pdf

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search wrote:
21 Mar 2025, 17:47
SiLo wrote:
21 Mar 2025, 17:34
search wrote:
21 Mar 2025, 17:30
Pirelli has raised minimum tire pressure by 1 PSI. As expected, I guess, given the much faster track, but a bit unusual to happen under parc fermé.
Wait this was done after qualifying? I'm sure the teams will have fun with that.
not 100% sure, but it was only announced after Qualifying, at least, and "following today's running" sounds like it:

"Pirelli already increased its minimum starting tyre pressures for this weekend by 1psi at the rear and 0.5psi at the front, to 23psi and 26.5psi respectively. Following today’s running it has increased both again, to 24psi and 27.5psi respectively."

https://www.racefans.net/2025/03/21/pir ... -graining/

https://www.fia.com/system/files/decisi ... iew_v2.pdf
They must be concerned about the durability of the tyres if they are raising pressures.
Felipe Baby!

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SiLo wrote:
21 Mar 2025, 17:58
They must be concerned about the durability of the tyres if they are raising pressures.
the teams as well, I think. Marko said that Red Bull went lower downforce to save the tires - not the other way around, as usual. Sounds like load/cornering speed was too high.

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Not really avoidable if they've done that.

It's about duty cycle of the tyre's carcass/structure to reduce flex in that element, this to control ultimately the heat build up in that part.

They must be seeing the carcass heading toward structural failure/delamination to respond like this.

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It is absolutely shocking how high tyre pressures are with Pirelli. It just shows they don’t have any confidence in them. We really need a new tyre supplier. Michelin used to have pressures of about 14-18 psi if I remember correctly and no overheating either something Pirelli have never got their heads around. The prescriptive tyres need to be better too so the drivers can actually push more than half a lap