What am I on about?! 300 points?! Go back to your calculator. Max finishing runner up will give him the WDC that's the calculation that matters. Max will easily win again..WDC isn't the focus. That's what I'm on about
The gaps between the teams at the tops are so small. Car isn't that dominant to expect a P1 on all of the remaining races. You have to hope than when (if) they take wins, Max finishes lower than P2 a couple of times to gain more points on him. And when (if) Max wins, they have to be P2 to minimize points losses.stonehenge wrote: ↑21 Jul 2024, 17:23There are 11 races left. If Norris finishes first in every race and Verstappen only second, he would gain 66 points. That's not enough. In other words, they need to make a decision now on whether they're going for it or not because the only way to beat Max in the WDC will be to have both drivers work together to help Norris. Piastri is too far back, so it's completely fair to put your chances on Norris. They have a real shot at this. The difference between 1st and 3rd is 10 points. That's a whole lot, and they WILL have races coming up where both McLarens are faster than Verstappen. But they need to make that call now and run with it. Otherwise they're throwing away a chance to win the WDC that they may not get again so quickly.
What am I on about?! 300 points?! Go back to your calculator. Max finishing runner up will give him the WDC that's the calculation that matters. Max will easily win again..WDC isn't the focus. That's what I'm on about
I understand where you're coming from but the WCC is simply nowhere nearly as meaningful as the WDC. Especially from a brand/sponsorship perspective. Winning the WCC would no doubt be a big deal for McLaren, but it's not the kind of news that'll pop up on everyone's phone as a news alert. Winning the WDC *does*. It's a huge deal that is front-page news around the world. No team would ever prioritize the WCC over the WDC.Marc.W wrote: ↑21 Jul 2024, 17:21I disagree, the team should always have eyes on the WCC, the WDC comes with it, Max is still over 3 race wins ahead on points, if by some chance that Lando misses out on the WDC this year by less than 7 points, then yes, we can come back to the call today, but realistically that isn't going to happen and we scored the maximum possible today for the more important WCC.wickedz50 wrote: ↑21 Jul 2024, 17:13My POV the eyes should be on the WDC at any cost. A win for Norris here still is a long shot at the WDC for this year. Both drivers has to work together for the bigger picture. The RBR is still super fast and in Max's hand it will be winning many more races. The team should thank LH for his defensive drive to keep charging Max behind on 2 key situation. The day Norris can defend his position against Max like what LH did today then I am sure he will be the WDC.
None the less the job is done 1-2. Hope that Spa will be as competitive as today. A RBR 1-2 there will be again be a tough ask for Mclaren.
seems like nobody cares now lol, everybody's here for P1 only
I think you're vastly underestimating how quickly Verstappen's lead can disappear. If Norris had finished P1, he would've gained 15 points on Verstappen. That's almost a fifth of his lead. McLaren has already left so many points on the table in the past races:Emag wrote: ↑21 Jul 2024, 17:29The gaps between the teams at the tops are so small. Car isn't that dominant to expect a P1 on all of the remaining races. You have to hope than when (if) they take wins, Max finishes lower than P2 a couple of times to gain more points on him. And when (if) Max wins, they have to be P2 to minimize points losses.stonehenge wrote: ↑21 Jul 2024, 17:23There are 11 races left. If Norris finishes first in every race and Verstappen only second, he would gain 66 points. That's not enough. In other words, they need to make a decision now on whether they're going for it or not because the only way to beat Max in the WDC will be to have both drivers work together to help Norris. Piastri is too far back, so it's completely fair to put your chances on Norris. They have a real shot at this. The difference between 1st and 3rd is 10 points. That's a whole lot, and they WILL have races coming up where both McLarens are faster than Verstappen. But they need to make that call now and run with it. Otherwise they're throwing away a chance to win the WDC that they may not get again so quickly.
Ideally, you don't want Max to win any more races now, and if Merc & Ferrari pick up wins, they have to outscore Max and take the podium positions.
Either way, gap is relatively large. The slow start to the season hurt the chances for a WDC significantly.
It's the trend that is important. RB continue to drop back. 2nd isn't a guarantee.Emag wrote: ↑21 Jul 2024, 17:29The gaps between the teams at the tops are so small. Car isn't that dominant to expect a P1 on all of the remaining races. You have to hope than when (if) they take wins, Max finishes lower than P2 a couple of times to gain more points on him. And when (if) Max wins, they have to be P2 to minimize points losses.stonehenge wrote: ↑21 Jul 2024, 17:23There are 11 races left. If Norris finishes first in every race and Verstappen only second, he would gain 66 points. That's not enough. In other words, they need to make a decision now on whether they're going for it or not because the only way to beat Max in the WDC will be to have both drivers work together to help Norris. Piastri is too far back, so it's completely fair to put your chances on Norris. They have a real shot at this. The difference between 1st and 3rd is 10 points. That's a whole lot, and they WILL have races coming up where both McLarens are faster than Verstappen. But they need to make that call now and run with it. Otherwise they're throwing away a chance to win the WDC that they may not get again so quickly.
Ideally, you don't want Max to win any more races now, and if Merc & Ferrari pick up wins, they have to outscore Max and take the podium positions.
Either way, gap is relatively large. The slow start to the season hurt the chances for a WDC significantly.
If it was the shift, he said. Lando has way too many issues at the starts.
Honestly, the only way I see for Lando to have a real chance in the WDC is for other teams to intervene (Merc, Ferrari) to take points away from Verstappen if he doesn't get a chance on the podium. From my perspective, the next race in Spa is make or break for both teams. If McLaren can win there on merit given the fact Red Bull dominated in 2022 and 2023, this would be McLaren's championship to losestonehenge wrote: ↑21 Jul 2024, 17:23There are 11 races left. If Norris finishes first in every race and Verstappen only second, he would gain 66 points. That's not enough. In other words, they need to make a decision now on whether they're going for it or not because the only way to beat Max in the WDC will be to have both drivers work together to help Norris. Piastri is too far back, so it's completely fair to put your chances on Norris. They have a real shot at this. The difference between 1st and 3rd is 10 points. That's a whole lot, and they WILL have races coming up where both McLarens are faster than Verstappen. But they need to make that call now and run with it. Otherwise they're throwing away a chance to win the WDC that they may not get again so quickly.
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