2024 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

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Xyz22 wrote:
15 Sep 2024, 14:46
CouncilorIrissa wrote:
15 Sep 2024, 14:45
Vinlarr89 wrote:
15 Sep 2024, 14:40
Still don’t understand how that 6s lead was lost. The irony is Perez intervention of pitting early probably cost the race as piastri moved to cover him off early
Leclerc had a very slow lap just before the inlap (49.990). Something went wrong there.
Tyres were finished
The inlap was quicker by almost a second by the time he finished S2.

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Hehe you guys are hopeless... Never satisfied. With 4th car too fight for wins is something to behold. :D WCC P2 is in run.
"And if you no longer go for a gap that exists, you're no longer a racing driver..." Ayrton Senna

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CouncilorIrissa wrote:
15 Sep 2024, 14:50
Xyz22 wrote:
15 Sep 2024, 14:46
CouncilorIrissa wrote:
15 Sep 2024, 14:45


Leclerc had a very slow lap just before the inlap (49.990). Something went wrong there.
Tyres were finished
The inlap was quicker by almost a second by the time he finished S2.
Yeah, I mean it's easier to make a mistake when the tyres are struggling... Also, generally inlaps have higher engine modes

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Sevach wrote:
15 Sep 2024, 14:47
Xyz22 wrote:
15 Sep 2024, 14:37
The approach was too conservative. Track position is king.

They were too focused on tyres and they forgot that overtaking is difficult even in this track. Leclerc as well too relaxed with Piastri behind thinking too much ahead.

We had 6 --- seconds ---
Charles was too conservative out of the box and didn't even try to block Piastri, underestimated that he could attempt a dive bomb.

Also no need to wait for Piastri to pit, it was obvious he needed to pit then and there... had he stayed on he would lose position to Perez and put himself in a hole.
I don't think it is as simple as "just cover the inside" tbh. Charles was still on relatively cold tyres. Piastri made a great move and the McLaren loved those hards meanwhile Charles killed his rears behind Oscar.

Although as I say this, Charles said looking back he should have defended Oscar better. Fair enough then.
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aleks_ader wrote:
15 Sep 2024, 14:51
Hehe you guys are hopeless... Never satisfied. With 4th car too fight for wins is something to behold. :D WCC P2 is in run.
Hard to be overjoyed when you go into the weekend with a race winning package and come out with a total of 20 points! :lol: :lol: :lol: At least the car's fast.

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aleks_ader wrote:
15 Sep 2024, 14:51
Hehe you guys are hopeless... Never satisfied. With 4th car too fight for wins is something to behold. :D WCC P2 is in run.
The team squnadered an easy win. What's there to be satisfied about?

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charles should have defended he was too conservative as he says in interview, he will learn from it, oscar is stright up killer can't give him room

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Fakepivot wrote:
15 Sep 2024, 14:55
charles should have defended he was too conservative as he says in interview, he will learn from it, oscar is stright up killer can't give him room
Yep, people have to adapt their rules of engagement with Oscar now that he's got the taste of blood.

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Leclerc said he should've defended more and he thinks the setup choice was poor for the hards and he had no pace in the 2nd stint. It was his fault not to defend more but after that one mistake there was effectively no chance of taking it. Just a massive costly error. Like he said, he'll learn.

Just so disappointed we could've had huge points today still, now one car has 0.

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Fakepivot wrote:
15 Sep 2024, 14:55
charles should have defended he was too conservative as he says in interview, he will learn from it, oscar is stright up killer can't give him room
He didn't defend because he didn't expect Oscar to have so much grip to brake that late in the dirty part of the track, because he had very low grip out of the pits on hards.

Must be more careful next time and try to cover the inside.

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ScuderiaLeo wrote:
15 Sep 2024, 14:57
Leclerc said he should've defended more and he thinks the setup choice was poor for the hards and he had no pace in the 2nd stint. It was his fault not to defend more but after that one mistake there was effectively no chance of taking it. Just a massive costly error. Like he said, he'll learn.

Just so disappointed we could've had huge points today still, now one car has 0.
tbf if he was really struggling that badly i think oscar may have just overtaken him later anyways

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SoulPancake13 wrote:
15 Sep 2024, 14:59
ScuderiaLeo wrote:
15 Sep 2024, 14:57
Leclerc said he should've defended more and he thinks the setup choice was poor for the hards and he had no pace in the 2nd stint. It was his fault not to defend more but after that one mistake there was effectively no chance of taking it. Just a massive costly error. Like he said, he'll learn.

Just so disappointed we could've had huge points today still, now one car has 0.
tbf if he was really struggling that badly i think oscar may have just overtaken him later anyways
With free air he could have managed things a bit better and Oscar should have pushed more to fight dirty air, but yeah he said the feeling with the hards was not great.

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SoulPancake13 wrote:
15 Sep 2024, 14:59
ScuderiaLeo wrote:
15 Sep 2024, 14:57
Leclerc said he should've defended more and he thinks the setup choice was poor for the hards and he had no pace in the 2nd stint. It was his fault not to defend more but after that one mistake there was effectively no chance of taking it. Just a massive costly error. Like he said, he'll learn.

Just so disappointed we could've had huge points today still, now one car has 0.
tbf if he was really struggling that badly i think oscar may have just overtaken him later anyways
I don't think so. Judging by Sainz's pace, the car was plenty quick on hards. If Charles managed to hold for 4-5 more laps, he would've driven far into the distance.

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SoulPancake13 wrote:
15 Sep 2024, 14:59

tbf if he was really struggling that badly i think oscar may have just overtaken him later anyways
I think the clean air would've helped but yeah it would've been a tight battle. Leclerc said he was scared of crashing almost every lap, so I guess he just wasn't comfortable. It's so disappointing because he was incredible on those mediums.
CouncilorIrissa wrote:
15 Sep 2024, 15:01

I don't think so. Judging by Sainz's pace, the car was plenty quick on hards. If Charles managed to hold for 4-5 more laps, he would've driven far into the distance.
Since Leclerc said he didn't have good feeling in the car, I'm not sure he would've had the same pace as Sainz.

Piastri clearly had way more pace at the end than what he showed for most of the stint, he was flying in the final few laps. That McLaren is insane on low fuel, there's no chance with them unless you're 10s clear. Ferrari are close but still not quite there. I hope whatever they bring to Austin helps bridge this gap.

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General question out of curiosity, would you guys consider the Perez/Sainz incident a racing one?

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I still think Leclerc could have won this race easily in free air, even if the feeling was worse compared to the first stint.