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Mclaren dont have number 1 drivers. Even in the days of Senna, he wasnt a number 1. Its only just half way through the season and you want one of our drivers to work for the other guy? Some of you are following the wrong team
You clearly didn't follow the team in 1998 when Coulthard allowed Mika to pass him for the win in Australia.
lol, I was following it quite intently as it happens - modesty precludes me from telling you just how off base that comment was
Yeah they will look at the complete setup. Floor ride height and suspension settings will be dialled in to get optimum downforce and then wings tweaked where necessary if they can't use a more efficient way of generating a good DF/Speed balance. Telemetry will be released shortly and we can see the relative strengths of the cars in this early session. Usual caveat of it not being very representative.
That said, I think the expectation is that Red Bull will be quick. I just hope the margin is small or non existent so we can take advantage of the Red Bull penalty.
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I'm not one to jump to conclusions but Verstappen looks extremely dominant in S2 and comparable to others in S1 and S3.
Hopefully they can dial in some speed in FP2 and FP3.
Albon and Verstappen have new engines. Maybe that also has an effect. Max already has a 10-place penalty. In any case, McLaren needs to step it up in the second sector. I think there's a bit of downforce missing.
Yeah they will look at the complete setup. Floor ride height and suspension settings will be dialled in to get optimum downforce and then wings tweaked where necessary if they can't use a more efficient way of generating a good DF/Speed balance. Telemetry will be released shortly and we can see the relative strengths of the cars in this early session. Usual caveat of it not being very representative.
That said, I think the expectation is that Red Bull will be quick. I just hope the margin is small or non existent so we can take advantage of the Red Bull penalty.
And also a beam wing for the lowest downforce. This also has an effect. But on the straights it is now an effective car. Not like it was last year.
I'm not one to jump to conclusions but Verstappen looks extremely dominant in S2 and comparable to others in S1 and S3.
Hopefully they can dial in some speed in FP2 and FP3.
Albon and Verstappen have new engines. Maybe that also has an effect. Max already has a 10-place penalty. In any case, McLaren needs to step it up in the second sector. I think there's a bit of downforce missing.
To be fair McLaren is a tenth clear of the next nearest competitor in S2. It's just that RedBull is crazy fast.
Yeah they will look at the complete setup. Floor ride height and suspension settings will be dialled in to get optimum downforce and then wings tweaked where necessary if they can't use a more efficient way of generating a good DF/Speed balance. Telemetry will be released shortly and we can see the relative strengths of the cars in this early session. Usual caveat of it not being very representative.
That said, I think the expectation is that Red Bull will be quick. I just hope the margin is small or non existent so we can take advantage of the Red Bull penalty.
Ahhh yes I was going to ask about the Beam Wing. This one is particularly interesting because a increasing for a small amount of drag penalty will offer a greater floor efficiency for a lesser drag penalty than messing with the rear wing.
I actually assumed the BW would be bigger here.
We tend not to see pictures of the beam wings much, these days, despite being a critical indicator in the setup
We look quick on the straight, RB look quick on the one true High Speed corner 10 - 11, which they take at full speed. But we take so much off the throttle I feel that either the gap is huge or it just isn't trying to go flat out there yet.
A large portion of the time lost appears to stem from turn 7, not sure if there was a slide, a run off track or what happened, but I don't think this will be the case later as in comparable turns in speed and profile we don't have the same issue.
I don't think the gap is huge, based on FP1. But we will see. All the gaps look exaggerated however so it is very clearly not representative timings and I think we are a long way from the truth.
Well, the updated rear wing and the low downforce beam wing have given a good increase in top speed. This car will be harder to overtake on a straight line.
The telemetry makes a mockery of the top speeds, I wouldn't read into this too much, there are clearly some different fuel loads, engine modes or whatever else they have done to set up the car. Red Bull are barely trying on the straights.
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