2022 São Paulo Grand Prix - Interlagos, Nov 11 - 13

[mrluke]

I believe the car's width of space must be within track limits surely?

Can you point out on the bottom picture then the car's width of space left within the track limits? I don’t see it.

And as was already mentioned, there were plenty of examples even in this very race where people went side by side through with no issues whatsoever because the outside driver left some space. I'm with Brundle on this one.

Track limits is one wheel on the track side of the white line. I'm being a bit facetious but the apex of T2 is half the car over the white line so thats part of it.

That's not how it works though.

Otherwise it would be a legitimate move to push another driver two wheels on the grass on any straight like Lance Stroll did to Vettel (and caught a 10sec penalty for):



MAYBE you could count the main curb in, but even then there is no car's width but feel free to point it out in the picture.

Yeah that's fair but I acknowledged that in my post.

In t2 the racing line is half your car over the white line at the apex, on a straight the racing line is 100% on the black bit.

To me that means interpretation of track limits should be different.

[Wouter]

Interesting to see Max fans doing their best to deflect from his failings by having a go at Hamilton on a totally unrelated matter.

This weekend Max showed that he is not a team player, that he deliberately crashes in to people and that he is petulant child when things don't go his way (not unusual with racing drivers, admittedly). This might have been Max's worst weekend in terms of his public persona. Plenty of people appear to be re-examining their fondness for Max after his behaviour in the last lap.

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Well, last Friday Max had 9.4 mil followers on his Instagram and now he has 9,5 mil followers. Not bad, because people now know
why Max did what he did.
Was it wrong? I don't know, but he agreed with the team there would be no team orders this weekend, but they did it anyway, so .........
RBR could and should have known what the answer to their radio request was, so a bit stupid from RBR.

[AR3-GP]

Interesting to see Max fans doing their best to deflect from his failings by having a go at Hamilton on a totally unrelated matter.

Unrelated matter? The reason Max was in a position to overtake Hamilton is because he got a bad restart.

[f1jcw]

Interesting to see Max fans doing their best to deflect from his failings by having a go at Hamilton on a totally unrelated matter.

This weekend Max showed that he is not a team player, that he deliberately crashes in to people and that he is petulant child when things don't go his way (not unusual with racing drivers, admittedly). This might have been Max's worst weekend in terms of his public persona. Plenty of people appear to be re-examining their fondness for Max after his behaviour in the last lap.

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Well, last Friday Max had 9.4 mil followers on his Instagram and now he has 9,5 mil followers. Not bad, because people now know
why Max did what he did.
Was it wrong? I don't know, but he agreed with the team there would be no team orders this weekend, but they did it anyway, so .........
RBR could and should have known what the answer to their radio request was, so a bit stupid from RBR.

wow.

It is absolutely amazing, Max can never do any wrong, never.
People really do think he pumps Roses.

[RonMexico]

Nobody says it’s Russell’s fault. He had the right to restart any which way he pleased. But it put Hamilton in that position. I’d view the resulting collision as a racing incident, with a little more blame on Verstappen’s end.

This doesn't make any sense.

Russell telegraphed when he was going to go and Verstappen had no issue timing when he hit the throttle. What was Hamiltons excuse?

[chrisc90]

Not to mention it was the second round of doing EXACTLY THE SAME thing on the restart.

[AR3-GP]

Nobody says it’s Russell’s fault. He had the right to restart any which way he pleased. But it put Hamilton in that position. I’d view the resulting collision as a racing incident, with a little more blame on Verstappen’s end.

I don't think he put Hamilton in any position. I think Hamilton followed too closely. Max has restarted from P2 plenty of times and rarely ever comes under pressure from P3. Often Max is the one breathing down P1's neck into T1.

[Shrieker]

Well well well. Eyelash man wins !

Is there some kind of running gag that I'm not aware of?

Not not really

But when we have the eyebrow man with magnificent eyebrows, why not have the eyelash man with magnificent eyelashes to go along with him

[PlatinumZealot]

"I saw he had no intention to give me space and I had no intention to back out"

So Max deliberately crashed into Ham?!

Yes. That's why he was penalized. Max put his foot in his mouth there.

[mendis]

"I saw he had no intention to give me space and I had no intention to back out"

So Max deliberately crashed into Ham?!

Yes. That's why he was penalized. Max put his foot in his mouth there.

Lewis had no intention to leave one car's width as per the rule and Max had no intention to back off and stewards forgot to look at a 2012 racing between Schumacher and Raikkonnen. That's what happened. Extremely childish behavior from both drivers.

[PlatinumZealot]

"I saw he had no intention to give me space and I had no intention to back out"

So Max deliberately crashed into Ham?!

Yes. That's why he was penalized. Max put his foot in his mouth there.

Lewis had no intention to leave one car's width as per the rule and Max had no intention to back off and stewards forgot to look at a 2012 racing between Schumacher and Raikkonnen. That's what happened. Extremely childish behavior from both drivers.

Aaand Max wpuld leave a cars width for Lewis? Haha.

You got jokes!

Anyway. Max already lost position in the corner when he overshot his braking on purpose into turn one. It's a move he always does to compromise the defender's race line when he, Max turns back inwards.
In other words the move works if the defender is "scared" to not crash when the attacker comes steaming back onto the racing line from so far wide.

Lewis wont fall for those cheap tricks.

[mendis]

Yes. That's why he was penalized. Max put his foot in his mouth there.

Lewis had no intention to leave one car's width as per the rule and Max had no intention to back off and stewards forgot to look at a 2012 racing between Schumacher and Raikkonnen. That's what happened. Extremely childish behavior from both drivers.

Aaand Max wpuld leave a cars width for Lewis? Haha.

You got jokes!

Anyway. Max already lost position in the corner when he overshot his braking on purpose into turn one. It's a move he always does to compromise the defender's race line when he, Max turns back inwards.
In other words the move works if the defender is "scared" to not crash when the attacker comes steaming back onto the racing line from so far wide.

Lewis wont fall for those cheap tricks.

Aaand Lewis backs off if Max doesn't give a car's width? Who got the jokes now.

Like I said, they both are childish on track when duelling.

[Stu]

"I saw he had no intention to give me space and I had no intention to back out"

So Max deliberately crashed into Ham?!

Yes. That's why he was penalized. Max put his foot in his mouth there.

Lewis had no intention to leave one car's width as per the rule and Max had no intention to back off and stewards forgot to look at a 2012 racing between Schumacher and Raikkonnen. That's what happened. Extremely childish behavior from both drivers.

Exactly, they hit each other…
It might be 60/40, but it takes two to tango & they both wanted to dance…

[Ben1980]

It's an unwinnable argument. You cannot argue one is at fault without accepting the same, when the other way round.

But Max hit Lewis and therefore takes majority blame.

[basti313]

But Max hit Lewis

Yeah I saw this as well. With his fist right into the face.

Nothing against two cars colliding on the track, it was a clear one sided hit.