Red Bull RB11 Renault

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f1rules wrote:im sorry, but look at the comparison pics, rb dont have the tigthest sidepods anymore
but after Sauber C32 we should know that tight sidepods are overrated... :mrgreen:
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zztopless wrote: I'm pretty sure all teams using the new display were using OLED panels last year - http://www.mercedesamgf1.com/en/news/20 ... ing-wheel/ . I imagine the product they sell to the public needs to be in the realms of affordability (relative to F1 parts anyway), whereas for F1, you where weight is king - you would think OLED wins out. Given the screens seem to be mostly used for displaying white/light coloured text and graphics on a black/dark background, inherent contrast advantage of OLED would be well suited to being as easy to read as possible.

Having said that, LCD is of course more than capable and perhaps the extra weight isn't an issue for some teams (although given negligible difference in cost, in the context of a team's budget and the fact that it's going to be a bespoke part either way, I don't see why you wouldn't go for the slimmer, lighter easier to read screen).
OLED would make sense as they are half the thickness of LCD due to not needing a backlight. A WRGB OLED display should be able to produce similar brightness levels too.
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George-Jung wrote: The exhaust also seems to exit way lower than the 2014 Red Bull...
Actually no I think they've brought the cooling exits up higher to better allow for airflow around the side pods undercut and over the top of the diffuser.
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Basically the RB11 looks like a F14-T ... and the SF15-T looks like an RB10

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djos wrote:
zztopless wrote: I'm pretty sure all teams using the new display were using OLED panels last year - http://www.mercedesamgf1.com/en/news/20 ... ing-wheel/ . I imagine the product they sell to the public needs to be in the realms of affordability (relative to F1 parts anyway), whereas for F1, you where weight is king - you would think OLED wins out. Given the screens seem to be mostly used for displaying white/light coloured text and graphics on a black/dark background, inherent contrast advantage of OLED would be well suited to being as easy to read as possible.

Having said that, LCD is of course more than capable and perhaps the extra weight isn't an issue for some teams (although given negligible difference in cost, in the context of a team's budget and the fact that it's going to be a bespoke part either way, I don't see why you wouldn't go for the slimmer, lighter easier to read screen).
OLED would make sense as they are half the thickness of LCD due to not needing a backlight. A WRGB OLED display should be able to produce similar brightness levels too.
Yep, WRGB overcomes one of the relative weaknesses to LCD, white efficiency and brightness (although brightness isn't really an issue with OLED panels anymore (they tend to be brighter than LCDs), even when displaying white. But it's the weight and space savings, as you say, that make it a perfect fit for F1.

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zztopless wrote:
djos wrote: OLED would make sense as they are half the thickness of LCD due to not needing a backlight. A WRGB OLED display should be able to produce similar brightness levels too.
Yep, WRGB overcomes one of the relative weaknesses to LCD, white efficiency and brightness (although brightness isn't really an issue with OLED panels anymore (they tend to be brighter than LCDs), even when displaying white. But it's the weight and space savings, as you say, that make it a perfect fit for F1.
OLED's being self-emissive pixels also have the advantage of using less power than a backlit LCD as only the active pixels use any power (vs an always on backlight array across the entire panel).

F1 teams also dont need to worry about the shorter comparative life of OLED panels (30,000hrs half life is not even a big deal in our homes either) and can drive them as hard as they like as they dont need the steering wheel display to last 10 years. :D
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f1rules wrote:im sorry, but look at the comparison pics, rb dont have the tigthest sidepods anymore
I kind of disagree
http://www.f1technical.net/forum/viewto ... 42#p557542

Overall it's the same as the Mclaren(the tighest of all) but has a tiny bit more bodywork on the central area close to the RW centerline. But, up front, it has smaller sidepod intakes and the clearance in the floor is bigger than all other cars, in the undercut area.
Diesel wrote: The undercut and size of the sidepod intakes is particularly impressive, and the packaging at the rear is probably the tightest of what we've seen so far, Mclaren are not far behind in this area.
Yes, I agree but maybe all this won't be enough. Renault seems to really have improved on power and being more compact but what I take from Newey's words is that they will fight for wins on places where HP is not so determinant and that's it. Not an overall contender, still.
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I would take what newey says with a grain of salt.
This is a man that placed stickers on sidepods that appeared to be exhaust pipes. You can't get more smoke and mirrors than that. They could come out on the first race and "blow everybody off" as Lauda would say.
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Realistically though, it makes sense what he's saying.

Last years dominant team has started testing in an even more dominant fashion. And all the reasons why that teams was so dominant still exist. So there is little hope that now suddenly another team will dominate and win the championship this year. Too little time has passed. All they can do is match Mercedes, and take a couple of wins.

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Wasnt this sort of s-duct banned?

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Rikhart wrote:Wasnt this sort of s-duct banned?
What rule do you think banned it?

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f1rules wrote:im sorry, but look at the comparison pics, rb dont have the tigthest sidepods anymore
Not as much at the rear, but the front of the sidepods have a deep undercut, and the intakes are very small.

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So apparently a broken Front Wing on the RB. Do they run the New Nose that was rumoured to be brought today?
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Damaged front-wing:

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or a ripped decal?
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