2016 United States Grand Prix - COTA, 21-23 October

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flynfrog
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What about all the times Nico drove past him on the start this year or is clutch use not a driver skill? The save-a-ham crew is getting old :roll:

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flynfrog wrote:What about all the times Nico drove past him on the start this year or is clutch use not a driver skill? The save-a-ham crew is getting old :roll:
You need to leave some space, heil the champion and count on 2014. If you take away the first corner incidents or pushing off track in general, then there is not much left at all in the last two years for either of them. No one wants that, we need a star in the sky not on the car.
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GPR-A wrote:Wow!!! What an evidence !!! Lewis on Mediums, had built up a lead of 10 seconds and Nico was behind on Softs as part of alternate strategy. Safety car happens and the lead gets eroded, then it's a natural opportunity to then attack the driver on the slower tires. Genius!!! Hey, but still couldn't win that duel.

I think that clip is from earlier part of the race before the pitstops.

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A-Bap wrote:
holeindalip wrote:
PlatinumZealot wrote:So in both videos Lewis immediately retakes the position so those passes by Rosberg are not complete.

Thank you!!
Really??? Really??? You realize that you're saying that anytime a driver is fully overtaken, and then takes the position backsome time later, it "doesn't count?" What logic!

As well, in the Austin example, Ham boxed right after getting passed, so that doesn't count either? Please...
And who won last year? Everybody who visits this forum knows Rosberg has no race craft what so ever,anytime he gets engaged with a duel he's either pushing them off track or bouncing off the other vehicle...

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So what point are you trying to make perhaps there is more to winning a championship then passing a single other driver. Might I suggest a change to more constructive discussion then trying to get the world to worship the same driver you do?


It really gets rather old because at some point someones feeling will be hurt, then the personal insults happen, then the report button will be used, then the warnings get issues, warnings ignored, user banned, angry pm to moderators, rinse, repeat.

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holeindalip wrote:
A-Bap wrote:
holeindalip wrote:

Thank you!!
Really??? Really??? You realize that you're saying that anytime a driver is fully overtaken, and then takes the position backsome time later, it "doesn't count?" What logic!

As well, in the Austin example, Ham boxed right after getting passed, so that doesn't count either? Please...
And who won last year? Everybody who visits this forum knows Rosberg has no race craft what so ever,anytime he gets engaged with a duel he's either pushing them off track or bouncing off the other vehicle...
I do apologise, I thought it was an honest yet blinkered question originally. I didn't think we're playing a game of mental gymnastics. You did see that Austin '15 clip right? Where the driver in question completed an overtake of teammate with perfectly fine racecraft.

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Nuvolari wrote:
holeindalip wrote:
A-Bap wrote:
Really??? Really??? You realize that you're saying that anytime a driver is fully overtaken, and then takes the position backsome time later, it "doesn't count?" What logic!

As well, in the Austin example, Ham boxed right after getting passed, so that doesn't count either? Please...
And who won last year? Everybody who visits this forum knows Rosberg has no race craft what so ever,anytime he gets engaged with a duel he's either pushing them off track or bouncing off the other vehicle...
I do apologise, I thought it was an honest yet blinkered question originally. I didn't think we're playing a game of mental gymnastics. You did see that Austin '15 clip right? Where the driver in question completed an overtake of teammate with perfectly fine racecraft.
Yes ,I saw it. But, please can you show any more proof from any other time besides race starts??

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holeindalip wrote:
Nuvolari wrote:
holeindalip wrote:
And who won last year? Everybody who visits this forum knows Rosberg has no race craft what so ever,anytime he gets engaged with a duel he's either pushing them off track or bouncing off the other vehicle...
I do apologise, I thought it was an honest yet blinkered question originally. I didn't think we're playing a game of mental gymnastics. You did see that Austin '15 clip right? Where the driver in question completed an overtake of teammate with perfectly fine racecraft.
Yes ,I saw it. But, please can you show any more proof from any other time besides race starts??

Given that race starts are almost more important than qualifying (almost), one could say that only one driver on team Mercedes has cared enough to secure the championship through the thing that matters (with regards to the Mercedes league).

If on track passes mattered as much to the championship as YOU think they do, Lewis would be winning. So yes in that way you are correct.

However, they don't, and while Lewis has been perfecting his "on track passes" Nico has been getting on with the championship and things that matter.

The New DR has arrived. Maybe he can help Lewis with his foot.

Edited for grammar.

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SR71 wrote:
holeindalip wrote:
Nuvolari wrote:
I do apologise, I thought it was an honest yet blinkered question originally. I didn't think we're playing a game of mental gymnastics. You did see that Austin '15 clip right? Where the driver in question completed an overtake of teammate with perfectly fine racecraft.
Yes ,I saw it. But, please can you show any more proof from any other time besides race starts??

Given that race starts are almost more important than qualifying (almost), one could say that only one driver on team Mercedes has cared enough to secure the championship through the thing that matters (with regards to the Mercedes league).

If on track passes mattered as much to the championship as YOU think they do, Lewis would be winning. So yes in that way you are correct.

However, they don't, and while Lewis has been perfecting his "on track passes" Nico has been getting on with the championship and things that matter.

The New DR has arrived. Maybe he can help Lewis with his foot.

Edited for grammar.

:cry: =D>

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holeindalip wrote:
A-Bap wrote:
holeindalip wrote:

Thank you!!
Really??? Really??? You realize that you're saying that anytime a driver is fully overtaken, and then takes the position backsome time later, it "doesn't count?" What logic!

As well, in the Austin example, Ham boxed right after getting passed, so that doesn't count either? Please...
And who won last year? Everybody who visits this forum knows Rosberg has no race craft what so ever,anytime he gets engaged with a duel he's either pushing them off track or bouncing off the other vehicle...
No race craft? Please be careful with your terms else you'll not have any credibility. Nico went from last to third at Malaysia with relative ease. We can argue who has the best race craft, but to say that he has none and "everybody knows it" is perfectly silly.

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Relative ease? Let's just say Lewis didn't blow up and Rosberg wouldn't have punted Raikkonen where would've he finished?? Of course he has race craft or he wouldn't be making millions of dollars,but come on you have to admit he hasn't looked so hot this year...

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If a frog had wings it wouldn't bump its ass when it hopped. If if if if

Last I checked points were not awarded if the internet thinks you look so hot.

I ask again find a more constructive discussion besides how much you love/hate a driver

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Dam the Britney vs ham-bone fans arguing is hilarious! :mrgreen:
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This is a technical forum, how come we have to put up with this kind of s--t in our threads. This is the same crap you find on any fanboy forum - it drags f1tech down to that level.

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Yes, lets move on. There will be some cars on track today, albeit not very soon.

But here's something to lighten the mood.