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It's in the cards for Vettel? What...

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OMG.

So I just checked the tarot birth year cards for the year 2013 for Alonso, Hamilton, and Vettle.

Can you freeking believe it's to be the Chariot card for Vettel?!? WTF. Seriously. Has the guy not had a Chariot year three years running?!?? Good god.

Alonso is The Devil card, and Hamilton, the Hanged Man.

This does not bode well for Alonso and Hamilton. :(

But it does mean we will hopefully see a new, much more aggressive side of Alonso taking it to Vettle full force forward. :) And Hammy...well he will be Mr. contemplative and chillaxed--if he aligns that is...
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What the f**k did I just read?
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Btw his name is Vettel not Vettle...

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No need to get bent out of shape. Its just off topic conjecture, nothing more.

Sorry my spell checker flipped the "e" and the "l".

Man, folks need to lighten up in this forum!
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stefan_ wrote:What the f**k did I just read?
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i thought tarot cards were the opposite of the 'obvoius' meaning?

like, a death card is a good thing, and winning the lotto card means your gonna lose your house?

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Not always. There's no set rule. Rather, it's more about learning the cards principal symbolisms, their implications, and then how these symbols translate to the individual studying them. They are more like a learning / guiding tool for the human experience, rather than a fast set of Webster like divulgences which always say the same thing and always point to a corresponding energy forthcoming.

This is where the challenge lies in these birth year cards for these drivers. I cannot imagine this actually being a typical "Chariot Card" year for Vettel after the F1 life he has enjoyed for the last 3 years, so what exactly is the card pointing to? Or, maybe Vettel was just born under good planets/signs and simply will enjoy a life of much higher fortune than 99% of the rest of us…and obviously only Vettle may ultimately know by years end as far as the card is concerned as a ones vocation is only a singular dimension of life. If I could find his birth time and city I could get a lot more on him to better understand why he is enjoying such fortune--look at the last race of the season last year...I mean, my god. Seriously?? What are the odds for a car to take THAT kind of damage on the first freeking lap and he finishes the race...? What. I doubt that would ever happen to Hamilton with his seemingly endless bad luck. Yet, all this is traceable.

The cards usually speak to the deeper aspects, rather than the surface expressions. Clearly the more intriguing card for me is Alonso as the Devil card year this year. That will most likely turn out to make this a fairly radical year for the Spaniard in some capacity. That may translate to some exciting emotional discharges as usually, that card points to a set of radical life action in general. The symbol of the Devil is rarely used to describe an insurance seminar in other words...how this ultimately surfaces this year will be, hopefully, exiting for us in some way.

Sorry for the long reply. I really didn't mean to get into it. Sorry. #-o
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You are aware of the fact that they are merely cards produced in a factory and whatever card shows up is because it happened to lie in the right part of the stack?
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Now now. Anyone who's participated in any of the testing threads is automatically disqualified from passing judgement on this one. :wink:

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Pup wrote:Now now. Anyone who's participated in any of the testing threads is automatically disqualified from passing judgement on this one. :wink:
Well at least we had some numbers to look at instead of a deck of cards :)
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And you are aware that the universe works on electrical potentiation not gravitational/Newtonian physics, correct? If not, see the work of Wallice Thornhill and the Thunderbolts Project team. Theres more to this than a printing press I assure you.

In addition, you are aware of the Schumann Resonances, or Lay Lines on this planet that directly interact with the electromagnetic fields within each of us (Chakra centers)?

Also, you are aware of morphogenetic fields and the decades long efforts of Dr. Rupert Sheldrake? These interplay with the Energy the cards carry, but I certainly understand if you scoff at such considerations--I used to be the same way, so I get it.

You may want to check out the work of Dr. Judy Wood and her free energy hypothesis. These are all part of the same enterprise.

If you believe the world works on only sensorial cognition and reductionist based scientific conclusions, I doubt we will find equilibrium, but no worries, it's just all part of the process of integration into the deeper understanding of the world. I totally get it if you think this is complete bs, because I used to be there myself.

Now, lets get back to F1!! See you on the boards and quite frankly, I really appreciate your contributions--I learn something new from this forum most every day.

Cheers!
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I had quite a long answer as a reply but then i figured i´ll just let you roll with it.
There´s so much wrong in that post i can´t even begin to describe it.
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I had the same summarily dismissive views of Tarot cards and astrology and their related constituents until I dated a girl a few years ago who put stock into the "answers" they "reveal." That's not to say she converted me or anything. But, because I cared for her, I listened to her talk about those things in way that I hadn't when anyone else spoke of them, i.e. I kept an open mind.

I think they're an attempt to make sense of the otherwise senseless nature in which everything truly seems connected. It's every bit as reductionist as science; it just looks at different parameters.

It makes sense to me in this context: Think about your very best moments in life and then try to remember where you were when they happened. Not where your body was, because naturally it was wherever the event happened, but where you were. Can you? Rarely can I recall where I was in those moments in my life, because I was so immersed within them that "I forgot to remember" it, if that makes any sense. In other words, I was so connected to that moment and everything around me that my brain and its ability to store and recall information were rendered superfluous to the experience.

To bring this to F1, here are Ayrton Senna's thoughts on the qualifying session at Monaco in 1998:

"..the last qualifying session. I was already on pole, then by half a second and then one second and I just kept going. Suddenly I was nearly two seconds faster than anybody else, including my team mate with the same car. And suddenly I realised that I was no longer driving the car consciously. I was driving it by a kind of instinct, only I was in a different dimension. It was like I was in a tunnel. Not only the tunnel under the hotel but the whole circuit was a tunnel. I was just going and going, more and more and more and more. I was way over the limit but still able to find even more.

Then suddenly something just kicked me. I kind of woke up and realised that I was in a different atmosphere than you normally are. My immediate reaction was to back off, slow down. I drove slowly back to the pits and I didn’t want to go out any more that day. It frightened me because I was well beyond my conscious understanding. It happens rarely but I keep these experiences very much alive inside me because it is something that is important for self-preservation."


I think it's a sort of meditation in which we connect to and harness something that's greater than ourselves which then pushes us further than we could otherwise go on our own. Throughout history, there have been people who go to extreme lengths (and heights) to connect to the larger world around them in such a way.

Tarot cards/astrology/whatever, like religion, are attempts to answer that most fundamental of questions, why? Even science thus far has failed to provide definitive answers, and until such answers exist, there will be different ways to see something for what it is.

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Nando wrote:There´s so much wrong in that post i can´t even begin to describe it.
Your fancy science has failed you.

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bhallg2k wrote:I had the same summarily dismissive views of Tarot cards and astrology and their related constituents until I dated a girl a few years ago who put stock into the "answers" they "reveal." That's not to say she converted me or anything. But, because I cared for her, I listened to her talk about those things in way that I hadn't when anyone else spoke of them, i.e. I kept an open mind.

I think they're an attempt to make sense of the otherwise senseless nature in which everything truly seems connected. It's every bit as reductionist as science; it just looks at different parameters.

It makes sense to me in this context: Think about your very best moments in life and then try to remember where you were when they happened. Not where your body was, because naturally it was wherever the event happened, but where you were. Can you? Rarely can I recall where I was in those moments in my life, because I was so immersed within them that "I forgot to remember" it, if that makes any sense. In other words, I was so connected to that moment and everything around me that my brain and its ability to store and recall information were rendered superfluous to the experience.

To bring this to F1, here are Ayrton Senna's thoughts on the qualifying session at Monaco in 1998:

"..the last qualifying session. I was already on pole, then by half a second and then one second and I just kept going. Suddenly I was nearly two seconds faster than anybody else, including my team mate with the same car. And suddenly I realised that I was no longer driving the car consciously. I was driving it by a kind of instinct, only I was in a different dimension. It was like I was in a tunnel. Not only the tunnel under the hotel but the whole circuit was a tunnel. I was just going and going, more and more and more and more. I was way over the limit but still able to find even more.

Then suddenly something just kicked me. I kind of woke up and realised that I was in a different atmosphere than you normally are. My immediate reaction was to back off, slow down. I drove slowly back to the pits and I didn’t want to go out any more that day. It frightened me because I was well beyond my conscious understanding. It happens rarely but I keep these experiences very much alive inside me because it is something that is important for self-preservation."


I think it's a sort of meditation in which we connect to and harness something that's greater than ourselves which then pushes us further than we could otherwise go on our own. Throughout history, there have been people who go to extreme lengths (and heights) to connect to the larger world around them in such a way.

Tarot cards/astrology/whatever, like religion, are attempts to answer that most fundamental of questions, why? Even science thus far has failed to provide definitive answers, and until such answers exist, there will be different ways to see something for what it is.
Right on. Thank you. It's nice when one can dialog with another in this way.

I'd never heard that quote by Senna--but it's exactly what I was trying to elucidate in my note. That's the space. You align to it and everything changes. Seriously, thank you for taking the time to write all that. Cheers.
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