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Formula 1 is moving out of Europe.

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Isn't it sad that Formula 1 is moving out of Europe and into Asia? There is no point of building new circuits over there instead of staying here where F1 is born and where all the heritage is.
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Ye$. $imply $tupid. Thank% Bernie. Another $purious %cheme to $pice up the $how. :cry:
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Isn't this old news? Heritage doesn't mean there's a god given right to monopolise something.

In a business context its a great export. All those EU based teams, their suppliers and their employees are raking in money from other countries. Surely that's a sign of success?

Yes there's an argument that the money distribution (ie Bernie's pocket) is inequitable, but we shouldn't let that internal matter distract from the global success of F1. That global success means we can see races in Middle East and Asia during the European winter, otherwise the season would be much shorter.

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That's not bad at all.

Think about it - the coffee I'm drinking is Brazilian, about 80% of the electronics at home is made in China, I drink Italian wine, use Russian gas to heat the house, but I will holler at other countries having the right to host F1? No chance.

Heritage doesn't mean a lot - Monaco GP has a lot of it, but I simply think it should be canceled. The new Austin track is USA is leap miles ahead.

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It´s a world championship, not a European championship.

Yes well all would like to run nearly 100% euro tracks apart from some gems outside europe but if the sport wants to expand and stay this big you need to build tracks in other countries, "program" little kids with this cool thing called F1 and create millions of new fans.
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Yes all of you are right but stil, I think that Bernie is going to far. And for instance in Inda, there arn´t many people how can afford a ticket and I don´t think there are very much fans either, in every way not as manny as in Europe. I know that my F1 ultimate calender will never become reality but I hope that a lot of these tracks will come back in the calender.

This will be mine ultimate F1 calender (yes, I know that some circuits are not realy capable of having a GP).

1. Brands Hatch/Silverstone/Donington
2. Goodwood/Aintree
3. Zandvoort
4. Spa-Francorchamps/Zolder
5. Paul Ricard/Magny Course/Dijon
6. Charade/Linas-Montlhéry
7. Jarama/Catalunya/Jerez
8. Estoril
9. Hockenheimring/Nürnburgring
10. Österreichring
11. Imola
12. Monza
13. Monaco
14. Brno
15. Hongaroring
16. Suzuka/Fuji
17. Watkins Glen
18. Interlagos/Jacarepaguá
19. Hermanos Rodríguez
20. Kyalami
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richard_leeds wrote:[...]

In a business context its a great export. All those EU based teams, their suppliers and their employees are raking in money from other countries. Surely that's a sign of success?

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I think the problem is that [insert relevant agenda]-seeking governments in countries with no real interest in F1 other than the exposure it provides on the international stage are driving up the price of hosting grands prix in places with built-in fanbases, which, in turn, drives up the cost of attending F1 races for stalwart fans of the sport. That means the Circus travels to places like Bahrain, Malaysia, China, and formerly Turkey, to run races in front of half-empty grandstands, and that does nothing for the health of the sport; it merely lines the pockets of the Midget from Hell who then turns that pocket-lining into a justification to demand more fees from wildly celebrated venues that never want for fan support.
Hey, I've been indicted! wrote:"If we do lose Monza, and I say if, because no decision has yet been taken, it would only be for economic reasons. Of course, the quality of the circuit and the organisation could be better, but - I repeat - is not the crucial point."
(In other words, "I want more money!")

The net result of this spiral, in my view, has been the systematic disenfranchisement of the fans, of those who are the very lifeblood of the sport. And who then wants to spend money to sponsor teams when there's no one around to look at the pretty logos?

There was a time not too long ago when even the backmarkers could find sponsorship dollars somewhere.

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But, not anymore.

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FOM, which is little more than a glorified logistics company that nonetheless collects 50% of the sport's earnings, is driving Formula 1 into the ground.

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bhallg2k: Nice post. I agree with all of it. Well said, sir! =D>
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Brilliant post bhallg2k #nocompanies

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Dear FIA, if you read this, please pm me for a redesign of the Technical Regulations to avoid finger nose shapes for 2016! :-)

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Geschäftsführer
I don't know what it means, but I think it describes Bernie perfectly! :lol:
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MOWOG wrote:
Geschäftsführer
I don't know what it means, but I think it describes Bernie perfectly! :lol:
Love it!
It means the big cheese in a very unliteral translation. The literal translation is shop leader, which means the MD or CEO depending on your side of the pond. As The Stooges song goes: I'm the chairman of the board, and I'm bored.

It's perfect Bernie, we should get some t-shirts made up!