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manchild
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Just found this web site... they sell 3D models among other things I've found 3D model of FIA CDG wing (urgh) and finally the uncovered radiators on R25 (I think that is modified R24 but it gives the idea)

3D models pay site http://www.turbosquid.com/Search/Index. ... archKey/f1

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R25? radiators
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Spencifer_Murphy
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Nice models...I like the one on the bottom right a lot.
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bernard
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Hi, haven't posted here in ages.

I agree, they look very nice, but I think we can all agree on they are not that accurate. Which is usually the case when a professional 3d modeller with zero experience of F1 does the modelling.
The nose and front wing are all wrong, as are the FWEP's.
When the original nose narrows down very dramatically, like in mp4-19, this one looks like the modeller got borded and just stretched a tube into shape.
I haven't got a picture to post along with it, but I think it's a safe bet to say the insides of the car are even more inaccurate than the visible and easy parts.

Now that I look at it, the front suspension looks like it's done from the hip, starting with the fact that is lacks the lower wishbone altogether. (probably not visible in the reference photos, that would explain it.)
Also, the floor under the sidepods is off, as is the end part of the sidepods, and that radiator exhaust looks like a joke and something just isn't right in the general shape of the sidepod. And the sidepod winglet is wrong too.

The engine cover is definately wrong too. It lacks the cut and extension at the back, among other things.

But other than that, it's a nice model! :P Just kidding, it's a good model if you're not looking for technical accuracy. For an animation it would probably be worth the price. The modeller has no doubt worked his ass off on this.

manchild
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I think that the confusion emerges from fact that model on pic is R24 or R23 while they've uploaded it as R25 just because they've added R25 like front wings.

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Steven
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hi bernard! welcome back. It's been a while idd...

As a sidenote though... I don't think the CDG wing was designed by the FIA having in mind these big wings. I mean, wasn't the center 'no wing' area a bit wider?

manchild
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Right, it looked different on FIA drawings but we have no idea abuot the regulations (span,size etc.)

Reca
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Well, since it’s a thread about 3d models, it’s new cars period, I think it’s about time to reveal, exclusive for F1technical ;-), my little “project” :

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BTW, as usual for a launch, a few words from technical director :

“I can say that we did put on this car the best of our knowledge, we took maximum care of the details dedicating to each part a bit of the spare time between ‘back from work’ and ‘need to sleep’.
For this reason, although we didn’t spend a single minute on the wind tunnel, even if we didn’t make a single CFD simulation, and knowing very well that most of parts are made to look strange enough, cool and recherché, we are pretty confident that the aerodynamic performance of the car will be comparable to drivers’ nightm... err... expectations.
Obviously the car you can see right now is just the launch version, we don’t want to reveal all our winning cards to the opponents... By the time the season starts lot of improvements will appear on the car and it will also receive updates on a race to race basis, copying everything we’ll see on other cars that looks cool enough...”

At the end, specifications, in typical F1 style :

Chassis :

Single seater carbon fibre honeycomb.

Weight : 600 kg, driver and ballast included

Suspensions : yes. Well... not exactly, sort of... wishbones are there.

Overall width : 1800 mm
Wheelbase : nd
Wheeltrack F/R : nd/nd
Wheels : 4

Engine :

Cylinders : 8, 90° V

Total displacement : 2396 cc
Unitary displacement : 299.5 cc

Bore / Stroke : 98 mm / 39.7 mm

Engine Power : nd
Engine weight : 95 kg.

Gearbox : 7 speed + Reverse.

RH1300S
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Nice modelling Reca, what software are you using?

manchild
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I like it too.

Is that Mclaren in Vodafone red? :wink:

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manchild wrote:I think that the confusion emerges from fact that model on pic is R24 or R23 while they've uploaded it as R25 just because they've added R25 like front wings.
It is indeed a little confusing model.
The basic shape seems like R24 or R23.
The frontwing extension winglets are definately R25. What confuses me is the lower rear flick-ups, which are part of the R25's updated aero package. What are they doing in there?

What I think has happened is the modeller has looked at the R25, seen that it looks pretty much like R24. So he has decided to save time since "no-one will tell the difference anyway" and just modelled the front wing extensions, the rear flick-up, the rearwing and the bargeboard "axes". He took the easy road and got busted. :lol:

bernard
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That was me, hadn't logged in. :P

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I'm very impressed reca......very.
I noticed it's single keel, and that the wing mirrors are mounted on the nose section, not the sidepods.
Nice job to you and anyone who contributed to this project.

bernard
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Reca, in your design I think the front wing mounting is a nice idea. The way it leaves the lowest element clean, free of any disruption. I wonder why we haven't seen that in reality yet. It seems a promising idea. :-k

manchild
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bernard wrote:Reca, in your design I think the front wing mounting is a nice idea. The way it leaves the lowest element clean, free of any disruption. I wonder why we haven't seen that in reality yet. It seems a promising idea. :-k
I think it’s because than upper elements couldn’t have adjustable angle.

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Looks very nice, however once you go into details things start showing up like the contours of the side pods etc! Indeed, it is a very good effort. It would be great to see the car meeting the regulations and the wing sections being real.

Did you model in a 3D CAD package or was it in 3D Studio Max?

Thanks

Alan.