World Endurance Championship 2017

[matt21]

New Porsche 919 (via AMS):








And the new Toyota TS050(via AMS):

[j2004p]

New Porsche 919 (via AMS):

https://imgr3.auto-motor-und-sport.de/P ... 062664.jpg

https://imgr3.auto-motor-und-sport.de/P ... 062671.jpg

https://imgr1.auto-motor-und-sport.de/P ... 062668.jpg


And the new Toyota TS050(via AMS):

https://imgr4.auto-motor-und-sport.de/T ... 062618.jpg

https://imgr3.auto-motor-und-sport.de/T ... 062619.jpg

https://imgr4.auto-motor-und-sport.de/T ... 062616.jpg

So many headlights on the porsche!

[santos]

I can see the difference between them, but i wish they had a different color scheme. I was watching some videos from Monza test, and it's not so easy to recognize witch one is the Porsche or the Toyota.

[FW17]

Is there any evidence to suggest that 919 is using TJI

"Therein lies the rub. F1 has, at enormous cost and effort, developed highly advanced internal combustion engines capable of delivering thermal efficiency indices of 50% - up from what was considered a remarkable 40% five years ago. Porsche, Mercedes and Ferrari cracked the code; only Honda and, to a lesser degree, Renault, failed. Yet this technology is due to be chucked out with the bath water."

[Sevach]

Porsche is taking a bigger beating than expected and has started asking for clarifications.

[rscsr]

Porsche is taking a bigger beating than expected and has started asking for clarifications.

As far as I understand Porsche is running both their cars with LeMans aero (albeit with max DF), while Toyota ran with their high DF package on 2 cars in Silverstone and Spa. Although it looks good for Toyota, there are still 6 weeks until LeMans and not everything was shown already (especially Porsche's MGU-H should be quite suited for LeMans, although they seemed to have a lower topspeed than the Toyotas in Spa).

[wesley123]

Fairly certain(But not 100%) Toyota ran LM spec at Spa. The big difference between both specs is the suspension covers, the LM spec is a bit higher.

Porsche is taking a bigger beating than expected and has started asking for clarifications.

Unclear what Porsche is aiming at. What was said was "rear diffuser", but it's unclear what they mean. The sole thing for attention is using brake duct aero to create a skirt, but both Porsche and Toyota are doing the same thing in that area.

[Sevach]

Fairly certain(But not 100%) Toyota ran LM spec at Spa. The big difference between both specs is the suspension covers, the LM spec is a bit higher.

Porsche is taking a bigger beating than expected and has started asking for clarifications.

Unclear what Porsche is aiming at. What was said was "rear diffuser", but it's unclear what they mean. The sole thing for attention is using brake duct aero to create a skirt, but both Porsche and Toyota are doing the same thing in that area.

Toyota ran 3 cars at Spa, 7 and 8, their regular WEC cars, were on high downforce configuration, the 9 was in low downforce trim.

Either way, Porsche looks worried, let's see if something is gonna happen to the Toyota.

[kamilandersen]

just imagine the RSR and the 919 taking two double victories at Le Mans!

[zac510]

I think the deeper worry from Porsche is that they have made a gentleman's agreement with the ACO and Toyota not to make a new chassis until 2020 and their chassis is already old and slower, it seems.

[Sevach]

http://www.racecar-engineering.com/cars/toyota-ts050/

This article has been updated with some stuff about the Toyota diffuser.

Also, line up changes for Toyota https://twitter.com/adamcooperF1/status ... 7426994176

[RicME85]

Porsche is apparently pulling out of LMP1 at the end of the season

[Sevach]

Porsche is apparently pulling out of LMP1 at the end of the season

That's the death blow i think.

Edit: Formula E it is https://presse.porsche.de/prod/presse_p ... sport-news

That's Renault, Audi, Jaguar, Mercedes, BMW and Porsche in F-E now... am i missing anyone?