How to take the heat from shock absorbers and generate electricity from it?

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abray4
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How to take the heat from shock absorbers and generate electricity from it?

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I have been wondering how to do this, however I am not the smartest with cars components.

Could someone explain how the heat is produced and how it may be possible to take this heat and use it to generate electricity.

johnny comelately
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Re: How to take the heat from shock absorbers and generate electricity from it?

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And / or the shaft movement...good thinking, hopefully it could be scaled enough to work.
Also ram air turbines as fitted to aircraft.

Tommy Cookers
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Re: How to take the heat from shock absorbers and generate electricity from it?

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abray4 wrote:
15 Jun 2022, 02:09
.... how it may be possible to take this heat and use it to generate electricity.
inefficiently
but damping forces made electromagnetically will efficiently generate electricity
(though not as efficiently as an engine-driven generator does when the engine is at partial power)

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Big Tea
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Re: How to take the heat from shock absorbers and generate electricity from it?

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Would pizio work?
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NL_Fer
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Re: How to take the heat from shock absorbers and generate electricity from it?

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Make a coil out of a damper and use g-sensors to actively apply DC current to the coil to, dampen out the movement and generate some current to charge the battery.

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Tim.Wright
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Re: How to take the heat from shock absorbers and generate electricity from it?

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I have investigated this before - dampers only dissipate an average of <50W of power across a lap. Not nearly enough to make any performance gains.
Not the engineer at Force India

johnny comelately
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Tim.Wright wrote:
15 Jun 2022, 21:16
I have investigated this before - dampers only dissipate an average of <50W of power across a lap. Not nearly enough to make any performance gains.
Except for the Merc rear dampers :wink:

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Zynerji
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Re: How to take the heat from shock absorbers and generate electricity from it?

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johnny comelately wrote:
16 Jun 2022, 01:36
Tim.Wright wrote:
15 Jun 2022, 21:16
I have investigated this before - dampers only dissipate an average of <50W of power across a lap. Not nearly enough to make any performance gains.
Except for the Merc rear dampers :wink:
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johnny comelately
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automotiv ... _generator
In ATEGs, thermoelectric materials are packed between the hot-side and the cold-side heat exchangers. The thermoelectric materials are made up of p-type and n-type semiconductors, while the heat exchangers are metal plates with high thermal conductivity.[1]

The temperature difference between the two surfaces of the thermoelectric module(s) generates electricity using the Seebeck Effect. When hot exhaust from the engine passes through an exhaust ATEG, the charge carriers of the semiconductors within the generator diffuse from the hot-side heat exchanger to the cold-side exchanger. The build-up of charge carriers results in a net charge, producing an electrostatic potential while the heat transfer drives a current.[2] With exhaust temperatures of 700 °C (≈1300 °F) or more, the temperature difference between exhaust gas on the hot side and coolant on the cold side is several hundred degrees.[3] This temperature difference is capable of generating 500-750 W of electricity.
Currently, ATEGs are about 5% efficient. However, advancements in thin-film and quantum well technologies could increase efficiency up to 15% in the future