buh-bye fastest lap point

[zeph]

Good riddance.

https://www.roadandtrack.com/news/a6263 ... lap-point/

[pob]

Just like with a lot of F1's ideas, the motivation behind it was understandable but its consequences were completely foreseeable. F1 is meant to have intelligent people who can understand game theory, why are they surprised by the repercussions when they make changes?

[Zynerji]

Why not just open it up to pos 1-20 instead? Let the backmarkers eat a bit...

[Sieper]

Because for some teams even just scoring 1 point was all the difference (travel costs reimbursed by FIA f.e.). They could park the car up for 20 laps during the race, put on fresh reds and super low fuel, go for it and retire the car with a “technical issue”.

To me it always was too gamey.

[bigblue]

I don't mind that it's gone. But if Danny Ric pits, goes for it, and gets a fast lap time, then good for him. You want another point Max or Lando? Then you'll have to set a faster lap.

[Greg Locock]

"Because for some teams even just scoring 1 point was all the difference (travel costs reimbursed by FIA f.e.). They could park the car up for 20 laps during the race, put on fresh reds and super low fuel, go for it and retire the car with a “technical issue”." they had to be a top 10 finisher as well, a non trivial requirement.

[Big Tea]

Why not just open it up to pos 1-20 instead? Let the backmarkers eat a bit...

I agree with this. If any car gets fastest lap they deserve it if they are leading or in the drain. The time required will be the same for all "entrants" so should be the reward.

[chrisc90]

If its the full grid, you would have the bottom 10 compromising their positions to get a quali lap in at the end. Would end up messy.

[Sieper]

"Because for some teams even just scoring 1 point was all the difference (travel costs reimbursed by FIA f.e.). They could park the car up for 20 laps during the race, put on fresh reds and super low fuel, go for it and retire the car with a “technical issue”." they had to be a top 10 finisher as well, a non trivial requirement.

I was replying to the suggestion to open it up to not just the top 10 but all 20 drivers.

For me it is too gamey already I agree with it being cancelled.

[Big Tea]

If its the full grid, you would have the bottom 10 compromising their positions to get a quali lap in at the end. Would end up messy.

Why not? They are there for points the same as the leaders. A point for fastest lap for say Williams is not going to affect the overall result but if they are in a contest with the other bottom 4 it adds interest to what would otherwise be just an also ran parade. I liked it when cars went to Lemans just to get the highest speed on Mulsane

[chrisc90]

If its the full grid, you would have the bottom 10 compromising their positions to get a quali lap in at the end. Would end up messy.

Why not? They are there for points the same as the leaders. A point for fastest lap for say Williams is not going to affect the overall result but if they are in a contest with the other bottom 4 it adds interest to what would otherwise be just an also ran parade. I liked it when cars went to Lemans just to get the highest speed on Mulsane

P10-20, no points to earn from the results points allocation. So you then have 10 cars that arent going to score a point. They all pit on last lap, or drop to the back in order to be last out, bolt on a set of softs, and you have 10 cars that are going to be doing a qualifying lap at the end. As that 1 point is more than they would get than what they do now.

Currently, there is no benefit of sticking some softs on and going for a fast lap at the end, as you dont get a point for FL currently. Only benefit is a driver taking a point off someone ahead of them in the standings.

[Big Tea]

If its the full grid, you would have the bottom 10 compromising their positions to get a quali lap in at the end. Would end up messy.

Why not? They are there for points the same as the leaders. A point for fastest lap for say Williams is not going to affect the overall result but if they are in a contest with the other bottom 4 it adds interest to what would otherwise be just an also ran parade. I liked it when cars went to Lemans just to get the highest speed on Mulsane

P10-20, no points to earn from the results points allocation. So you then have 10 cars that arent going to score a point. They all pit on last lap, or drop to the back in order to be last out, bolt on a set of softs, and you have 10 cars that are going to be doing a qualifying lap at the end. As that 1 point is more than they would get than what they do now.

Currently, there is no benefit of sticking some softs on and going for a fast lap at the end, as you dont get a point for FL currently. Only benefit is a driver taking a point off someone ahead of them in the standings.

Is that a bad thing? 10 cars just going through the motions is no use to us as watchers or the sponsors who fund them.
They are not allowed to get in the way of cars leading them due to the blue flag rule, and would not get air time from TV as they are not relevant.
A race within a race ( as long as it does not interfere with the main event ) is a little plus for us, the teams and the sponsors and the TV channels if it is the usual procession. It would also put pressure on the 8-9-10 teams to make a decision to go for points or a bonus point.

(edit) equally as interesting as a sprint race where only a few get points.

[Sevach]

It usually led to someone making an (otherwise)unnecessary pit one lap to the end, crappy rule, won't miss it.

[Darth-Piekus]

I think it's for the best. No more B Teams stealing points on a last lap pit stop soft run change.