FIA To Propose ‘Windscreen’ To Protect Drivers

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Is this really serious?
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Giblet
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If it is it will also need a tiny wiper. The cameras need a rolling film in front to keep visibility.
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Not sure if it would stop a wheel or even a heave spring (unless we're talking fighter jet strength acrylic canopies), but a windscreen should be added simply to make the cars more aerodynamic. Fits right in with the efficiency goals for 2013. Plus, the drivers could wear partially open helmets so their faces could be seen during the race. This fits right in with all the other ratings bating gimmicks the FIA wants. Also, LMP-style air conditioning would be nice in Singapore as well!

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Formula None wrote:Not sure if it would stop a wheel or even a heave spring (unless we're talking fighter jet strength acrylic canopies), but a windscreen should be added simply to make the cars more aerodynamic. Fits right in with the efficiency goals for 2013. Plus, the drivers could wear partially open helmets so their faces could be seen during the race. This fits right in with all the other ratings bating gimmicks the FIA wants. Also, LMP-style air conditioning would be nice in Singapore as well!
It only needs to deflect the object, or reduce the energy imparted on the driver (by absorbing some of the impact). Racecar engineering had an interesting article about windscreens back after Felipe's accident.

Wiper also not necessary with modern day surface finishing, water repellants and airflow manipulation...

I say do it.

Regards,

Kurt.

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I say heads up display hologram projection as well.
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i know safety is key, please no.

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And finally, as the FIA honorable members have thought out, an arrangement with FOM and Sony has been made to go all digital. This way a number of things have been accomplished, complete safety at all times and no travel xpenses to speak of.
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ringo wrote:I say heads up display hologram projection as well.
Perhaps Ferrari could produce a complete third car as a hologram.

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Looks sh!t, we don't need that.
Btw. bring refueling back :lol:
Not sure if it would stop a wheel or even a heave spring (unless we're talking fighter jet strength acrylic canopies), but a windscreen should be added simply to make the cars more aerodynamic. Fits right in with the efficiency goals for 2013.

F1 cars don't need to be efficient.
For safety its better when they are inefficient. They need to have high drag to reduce top speed and increases slipstream effect therefore overtaking becomes easier. What they do at the moment with moveable rear wings and stuff like this is counterproductive.
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autogyro wrote:Perhaps Ferrari could produce a complete third car as a hologram.
LOL ... And maybe they could send Sam Beckett back to Brazil 2008 to put right what once went wrong ;)

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Giblet
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bettonracing wrote: Wiper also not necessary with modern day surface finishing, water repellants and airflow manipulation...
At speed yes, but I wonder how things would be in the rain, with a big glob of oil, grease,or tar, in the middle of a hairpin and you can't see around the glob.

GT cars and LMP cars have wipers, I would think they would ditch them if they could for the drag alone.

A motorcycle driver can see around his windscreen if need be. Some drivers (Felipe Baby) have trouble seeing through their visor in poor conditions.

I think a wiper might not have to run often but would be a necessary precaution.
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Giblet wrote: At speed yes, but I wonder how things would be in the rain, with a big glob of oil, grease,or tar, in the middle of a hairpin and you can't see around the glob.

GT cars and LMP cars have wipers, I would think they would ditch them if they could for the drag alone.

A motorcycle driver can see around his windscreen if need be. Some drivers (Felipe Baby) have trouble seeing through their visor in poor conditions.

I think a wiper might not have to run often but would be a necessary precaution.
Keep in mind that GT & LMP cars have much larger windscreen surface area, steeper angles, a much wider variety of rubber compounds on the track at the same time, and a much higher probability of debris on track (for a variety of reasons).

That said, Your redundancy argument is a good one. If they could somehow configure some tear-offs so the driver could tear them off while driving, it could sthe wiper drag penalty. Good luck sticking ur fingers into the airsteam at F1 speeds tho...

Regards,

Kurt

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A wiper would be presenting only its narrowest profile on this shape of windshield (since it would need to rotate about the longitudinal axis of its torpedo-like shape), so the drag would not be as much of an issue, compared to what you are saving by adding the windshield in the first place. Similar to this:

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autogyro wrote:
ringo wrote:I say heads up display hologram projection as well.
Perhaps Ferrari could produce a complete third car as a hologram.
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or simple like the BMW:
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could show data like lap times, temperatures, drink level. 8)

closer and closer to a video game.

Piquet Jr. or shumacher would love this one:
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