2025 Japanese Grand Prix - Suzuka, April 04 - 06

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I'm surprised by Mercedes. They looked so strong until the very last moment. The ideal sector times would suggest they were even slower than Ferrari which is strange because it looked like Mclaren vs Mercedes for this weekend with Ferrari and Red Bull trailing.

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AR3-GP wrote:
05 Apr 2025, 10:55
I'm surprised by Mercedes. They looked so strong until the very last moment. The ideal sector times would suggest they were even slower than Ferrari which is strange because it looked like Mclaren vs Mercedes for this weekend with Ferrari and Red Bull trailing.

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I think George didn't improve on his first run if I am not wrong. They had pace on merit to be second fastest team in my opinion. We are just seeing his first lap and maybe Kimi's best lap put together.
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f1isgood wrote:
05 Apr 2025, 10:57
AR3-GP wrote:
05 Apr 2025, 10:55
I'm surprised by Mercedes. They looked so strong until the very last moment. The ideal sector times would suggest they were even slower than Ferrari which is strange because it looked like Mclaren vs Mercedes for this weekend with Ferrari and Red Bull trailing.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gnwfox1W0AA8l-g.jpg
I think George didn't improve on his first run if I am not wrong. They had pace on merit to be second fastest team in my opinion. We are just seeing his first lap and maybe Kimi's best lap put together.
yeah, he did not improve, and the 1st run wasn't good to begin with. He lost 2 tenths in the hairpin.

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Great session. I coulndt stay awake, but the results says it all. Max pulled that out of nowhere. Rookies doing well. Yuki floundered i guess. P15 really?
Lewis not looking convincing at all. Must be lacking confidence.
Other than Max, Hadjar and Bearman are the surprises. The others seem about right.

Can Max hold on to P1 tomorrow vs Norris?
Can Leclerc makw the podium?
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darkpino wrote:
05 Apr 2025, 09:13
I don’t post a lot here but this is a moment I can’t let by. Anyone ever saying again Max can only perform in the best car is proven wrong again. What an unbelievable performance
I have been watching F1 for so many years that it doesn't take much to recognize that this guy is a true genius. I joined this forum pretty late (before last season began) ; and since then, whenever I have pointed out (with data, with pictures of car positioning) that this guy is 'one-level-above' anyone else on this grid, I have taken a lot of flak, been called fan-boy etc. Monaco 2023 Q3, Jeddah 2021 Q3 (crash), Brazil 2016, Brazil 2024 - these are flashes of who Max really is. Talent that cannot be 'gained' by practice/training, it has to be a 'gift'. Practice/training can 'sharpen' it, of course. But it has to be there. Today is yet another day of demonstration of the same.

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05 Apr 2025, 10:10
Bearman, Hadjar, and Antonelli are going to be in F1 for a very long time.
Bingo.
Suzuka is a track with all kinds of corners that you will find in F1, condensed into one narrow track. And any rookie who does well, has proven himself that he isn't a pushover.

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05 Apr 2025, 11:18
Can Max hold on to P1 tomorrow vs Norris?
Can Leclerc makw the podium?
I don't think Max can win it, the car is simply no match for the McLarens. Plus Max's car is on a lower DF setup than others => tyre eating will be even worse on the Redbull. Max himself will be happy if he hangs onto P3. I expect P3 fight between Max, both Ferraris and Russel.

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Cs98 wrote:
04 Apr 2025, 18:41
They really ought to start pausing the clock if red flags exceed 5 minutes of lost time in FP. People are paying money to watch this stuff and they get what we saw today.
People pay to see other events as well. Here it is F1 only but there are venues packed up with sessions for different categories. Then you have to finish the session on time otherwise the schedule collapses. And then again the rules have to be consistent despite of how packed-up the weekend is.

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Verstappen’s in a league of his own, but honestly wild how the VCARB looked stronger than the Red Bull.
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Chuckjr wrote:
05 Apr 2025, 09:16
That was Schumacher-esque from Max. WOW. Incredibly impressive.
When it happened I thought just the same because it reminded me of 1998,1999 and 2000 when MSC stole the pole, from Newey´s Mclaren, by a few hundredths.

I already consider Max to be the fastest driver ever in F1 considering all of his, rather good, team mates, it must be said, are always nowhere while he puts it where it doesn´t belong (today it is the 4th car, at best). Other drivers like Senna and Schumacher were dominant vs their respective team mates but those were not nowhere as Max´s

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The chance of a wet race has increased again over the past hours. The Japanese agency now has a 50% chance (start is at 2pm local), and also YR for example predicts rain for the early part of the race.

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https://www.yr.no/en/forecast/hourly-ta ... ircuit?i=1

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AR3-GP wrote:
05 Apr 2025, 10:10
Bearman, Hadjar, and Antonelli are going to be in F1 for a very long time.
Yeah, I got to admit that Olly performs very well in F1 eventhough he was mediocre in GP2, with Prema. Hadjar was stronger on lower formulae but is also overperforming in F1. Andy was just like Olly, on GP2, but maybe he isn´t bad. He did a solid race on Melbourne and today was quite decent, eventhough I believe Russell massively underperformed as he´s too far from pole, and Mercedes almost got pole on China, and last year he got soundly(0.3s) outqualified by Hamilton, a notoriously slow driver at this track. So, I highly suspect Mercedes was capable of fighting for pole. Nonetheless, decent performance from young Ant.
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04 Apr 2025, 20:29
Andy?
If you don´t like that I call Andrea by Andy, maybe, if you don´t mind, I could call him by "Chimi", as the letter "K" does not exist in Italian and "Chi" is the equivalent sound for "Ki" in his native language :wink:

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Artur Craft wrote:
05 Apr 2025, 13:27
Chuckjr wrote:
05 Apr 2025, 09:16
That was Schumacher-esque from Max. WOW. Incredibly impressive.
When it happened I thought just the same because it reminded me of 1998,1999 and 2000 when MSC stole the pole, from Newey´s Mclaren, by a few hundredths.

I already consider Max to be the fastest driver ever in F1 considering all of his, rather good, team mates, it must be said, are always nowhere while he puts it where it doesn´t belong (today it is the 4th car, at best). Other drivers like Senna and Schumacher were dominant vs their respective team mates but those were not nowhere as Max´s
Adding to the above description, his in car pov going into 130R so very minimal steering, really soft initiation, delicately fed the car in, to pass through there and not even use 1/2 the track on exit, then more straight line to brake for chicane. Like a ghost slipping through there without disturbing the chassis. A complete lesson in driver dynamics and his input to that car, sublime touch to it.

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darkpino wrote:
05 Apr 2025, 09:13
I don’t post a lot here but this is a moment I can’t let by. Anyone ever saying again Max can only perform in the best car is proven wrong again. What an unbelievable performance
Max is legit gonna go down as one of the best ever, regardless of whatever his championship or win record or whatever ends up being. Max was winning without the fastest car plenty before Red Bull(and especially Honda) finally gave him the best car. And the 2024 title should have erased any doubt whatsoever.