2021 Italian Grand Prix - Monza, Sep 10 - 12

[Just_a_fan]

Horner trying to make it a racing incident. So he knows Max was wrong.

[foxmulder_ms]

1) Grojan get a race ban for a similar aggression.

2) Vest dive bombed.

3) Vest could have easily backed out *anytime* he wanted. He maliciously had no intention to do so hence clearly caused the accident.

4) If this was 10 years ago, he would have killed HAM. (Where is Horner's tears for fellow driver??? )

[El Scorchio]

Given his extraordinary rhetoric after Silverstone, this is pretty cringey stuff.

[wesley123]

Here, Hamilton never gave Max a car's width when they were alongside when he was coming from his pitstop.

I don't think you realize how tight the chicane really is. Giving the space isn't reasonably possible, especially not when the attacker isn't even ahead.

He pushed Max into the sausage kerb & didn't leave any width when Max was alongside.

Max let himself get pushed on the sausage. He should have conceded, like any rational thinking driver would.

The suggestion that he even thought he could make the corner was completely irrational and the whole move was just typical Max.

It is a pattern which is going on since Silverstone. Hamilton will resort to any dirty act much like Abu Dhabhi 2016 !

And that's just rather childish to claim.

[NathanOlder]

Horner deflecting and stuttering over his words. He knows what went on.

Yeah, happy to call it a racing incident, and MAx entitled to the room, why was Lewis not entitled to room on lap 1.

[BlueCheetah66]

From Max's onboard, its looks as though at the point when you would normally bail out, there was enough room which is probably why he stuck in there, but Hamilton probably expected him to yield and tried to take the corner normally. I'd say its a racing incident but closer to Verstappen and I doubt there will be penalties

[sosic2121]

Anyone that thinks Max was not alongside.

https://i.ibb.co/0tV1PLj/monza-1.png

https://i.ibb.co/2yFWF5h/monza-2.png

https://i.ibb.co/0Y3B5rG/monza-3.png

https://i.ibb.co/jTrFqnC/monza-4.png

This is really interesting. Any photo of them approaching the corner and from pit exit?

https://i.ibb.co/C5Y9Hw3/monza-0.png

https://i.ibb.co/xCXgy6S/monza-11.png

Thank you

[Mattyw]

Given his extraordinary rhetoric after Silverstone, this is pretty cringey stuff.

Painful listening to him squirm

[Unf]

It's noticable that two screwed pit stops make contact happen. Firstly - Max pit stop was totally srewed and then Lewis pit stop was lik 4,4s instead of 2? And aaaaalllll of it brought them excatly to each other. World is strange.

[torpor]

To everybody asking where Max should have go. What about just ease the throttle bit and go in that corner behind Lewis not ‘on’ Lewis?!

[Edax]

In regards to the Lewis - Max incident; Similar to Silverstone in that it was probably a racing incident with Max this time being slightly at fault. Max was very ambitious in the same way Lewis was ambitious in Silverstone. And when they are racing as they are, nobody is gonna back down and thus the more ambitious one tends to lose out. We saw that in turn 4 on lap 1 this race where Lewis tried to go around the outside but backed out. So if there is consistency, then perhaps a grid penalty for Max. I would give the smallest amount probably, so a 3 grid place penalty (which I think is the lowest amount.).

Agree. I mean. Ves overtake was ambitious, but so was Ham defense on cold tires coming out of the pits. If it was against anyone else probably they would not have gone for the moves they made. Hamilton would have yielded and Ves would not have tried it.

But you don’t become world champion by letting your opponent get ahead. Certainly on this circuit where you don’t get many chances.

If there is a penalty then it would have to go to Ves since he was not in control of his car when they touched. But I would keep it light, after all we see this move several times each race. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn’t. Still I like to see people try.

[Mr.S]

Looks like a racing incident like Silverstone and both again making a point of not conceding in decisive situations.

At least this one pays out pain equally to both, in terms of points lost, and the championship stays tight at the top.

Yes but Lewis was penalized... so if its just like Silverstone..then Max should be penalized like Lewis was.

Devoid of logic. Hamilton had a cars width in Silverstone & was comfortably a full car length behind. And he still chose to ignore the apex & took the middle line & crashed into Max @ close to 300km/hour.

Here Max & Hamilton were virtually side by side & Hamilton gave Max no space when he knew Max was side by side.

Apples & oranges.

[e30ernest]

Horner trying to make it a racing incident. So he knows Max was wrong.

I do not have the Sky feed, so I feel bad for missing out the after race talks. I'm watching the live Post Race video from the F1 YT channel now.

If Horner is trying to call it a racing incident, then yeah he knows Max went a bit overboard (literally too).

[El Scorchio]

Horner is having a mare here. Especially with trying to defend Perez as well as Verstappen. I've never seen him look so sheepish and short of things to say.

[Just_a_fan]

The interviewers trying hard to make a story of enmity between Max and Lewis - will they talk and make up or will they hate each other going forward? Such a transparent attempt to make a story where one doesn't exist.