2021 Italian Grand Prix - Monza, Sep 10 - 12

[Restomaniac]

Although for me it was very clearly Max's fault, it was super stupid of Lewis to take the risk. Max had everything to gain by them both going off.

If Hamilton had let him just go past he would have got him in the next few laps and gone on to win the race. Very short-sighted from him.

Hang on. Hamilton had already played the nice guy on lap 1. How many times does he need to? Everytime he goes wheel to wheel with the spoiled child?

[NathanOlder]

Although for me it was very clearly Max's fault, it was super stupid of Lewis to take the risk. Max had everything to gain by them both going off.

If Hamilton had let him just go past he would have got him in the next few laps and gone on to win the race. Very short-sighted from him.

Did you not see how hard overtaking was today ? Bottas with a fresh PU was unable to pass a RedBull. SO it wasn't a given that he would pass Max. Plus Max proves to be harder to pass with his aggressive defence over the years.

[isullivan]

Max doesn't leave any space and when he is not left space he is surprised.

[JordanMugen]

His body language and his attitude was not that of a man that felt hard done by but that of a man who felt he'd done something wrong.

What nonsense.

Max doesn't leave any space and when he is not left space he is surprised.

That's true, but it really seems that Hamilton does not have Verstappen's best interests at heart.

[dans79]

It cannot be spun all ways for Max.
Lap 1 or the the crash. Max fans pick your poison.
One must be a penalty.
Also Toto's comments on a tactical foul are correct.
Max had no intention of racing Lewis at all or avoiding a collision.

The most basic penalty he can get is for causing a collision and that would be a 5 place grid drop.

Lets say Max was innocently driving through that gap. The fact he tripped up abd wrecked Lewis race alone is enough to even say this is causing a collision.
So naturally it should at least be a 5 grid drop.
The wheel bounced on Lewis' head for christ sake. No way he doesnt get a penalty.

Also for added bonus i hope his exhaust manifolds and engine are damaged from this. It will teach redbull a lesson. Very Hypocrtical team!

He is due a new engine anyway so if he gets a grid drop he will just take the new engine then.

Someone mentioned this earlier, and I don't think the fIA will let you do that. If the FIA does something that nullifies your penalty like in SPA is one thing, but a team can't themselves do something to lessen a penalty!

[NL_Fer]

Max should have gone for the second escape road, it’s clear from his onboard. That’s why it’s there, to try to prevent these sorts of incidents. Max looked contrite talking to the RBR guys in the garage.

It is for braking faults etc, not if somebody squeezing you when he shouldn’t.

[NathanOlder]

Although for me it was very clearly Max's fault, it was super stupid of Lewis to take the risk. Max had everything to gain by them both going off.

If Hamilton had let him just go past he would have got him in the next few laps and gone on to win the race. Very short-sighted from him.

Hang on. Hamilton had already played the nice guy on lap 1. How many times does he need to? Everytime he goes wheel to wheel with the spoiled child?

Yes, after Silverstone it was clear that Lewis is not allowed to stand up to Max, he must allow MAx to push him around. If he doesnt , then Lewis must be penalised. Thats what it seems from a few Max fans

[214270]

What about this gem: OCO gets a penalty forcing VET wide at 4, something LEC did to HAM a few yrs back (without penalty) when he won the race.

Stewarding is a complete joke, they haven’t got a clue.

[El Scorchio]

Hamilton walking in the paddock is looking stiff

He said he got the wheel on the head. Not surprised he's sore. If not for the halo, they'd still be scraping bits of his head off the back wheel of that Red Bull.

[djones]

Although for me it was very clearly Max's fault, it was super stupid of Lewis to take the risk. Max had everything to gain by them both going off.

If Hamilton had let him just go past he would have got him in the next few laps and gone on to win the race. Very short-sighted from him.

Hang on. Hamilton had already played the nice guy on lap 1. How many times does he need to? Everytime he goes wheel to wheel with the spoiled child?

In this situation, especially after now being on mediums he could have overtaken easily in the laps after. Instead, he chose to fight a fight where he could only lose. Them both not finishing is a dream result for Max as Hamilton was on for an easy win.

[foxmulder_ms]

Great job by Ricciardo, Norris and McLaren!

Racing incident, verstappen was entitled to space. Damon Hill making serious accusations

And just like in Silverstone, or many of Max' other incidents; That you can, doesn't mean that you should.

What he was trying here wasn't a move that was possible in any way, and considering the speed of the corner, he had quite a lot of time to back out.

Hamilton had every chance to back out and cordially concede the corner to Verstappen too. It seems, as PdR showed, HAM did not leave enough space for VER between the car and the apex of the corner. As Alonso says, a car's width has to be left considering that the cars were fully alongside.

As a mature driver, he has done that few time since he knows how to win a championship including the first lab on this very race.

There is blind hate against Ham.

[El Scorchio]

What about this gem: OCO gets a penalty forcing VET wide at 4, something LEC did to HAM a few yrs back (without penalty) when he won the race.

Stewarding is a complete joke, they haven’t got a clue.

Well- that was Ferrari in Monza for a race win, wasn't it!

[RonMexico]

It cannot be spun all ways for Max.
Lap 1 or the the crash. Max fans pick your poison.
One must be a penalty.
Also Toto's comments on a tactical foul are correct.
Max had no intention of racing Lewis at all or avoiding a collision.

The most basic penalty he can get is for causing a collision and that would be a 5 place grid drop.

Lets say Max was innocently driving through that gap. The fact he tripped up abd wrecked Lewis race alone is enough to even say this is causing a collision.
So naturally it should at least be a 5 grid drop.
The wheel bounced on Lewis' head for christ sake. No way he doesnt get a penalty.

Also for added bonus i hope his exhaust manifolds and engine are damaged from this. It will teach redbull a lesson. Very Hypocrtical team!

He is due a new engine anyway so if he gets a grid drop he will just take the new engine then.

Someone mentioned this earlier, and I don't think the fIA will let you do that. If the FIA does something that nullifies your penalty like in SPA is one thing, but a team can't themselves do something to lessen a penalty!

What do you mean? They can't take an engine if he had a grid place drop penalty?

[subcritical71]

Lewis looking a little stiff walking down the stairs. As much hate the halo had at introduction it has certainly proved its worth several times now. I don’t even notice it any more.

I guess Red Bull are pushing racing incident as eating crow about crocodile tears on safety of driver and car damage being paid for by at fault team will taste pretty bad.

[JordanMugen]

Yes, after Silverstone it was clear that Lewis is not allowed to stand up to Max, he must allow MAx to push him around. If he doesnt , then Lewis must be penalised.

Hamilton was penalised and at fault for that crash. Fair racing is about not causing at fault incidents!

Just as Verstappen would not see Hamilton as a fair racer, neither would Albon. Albon lost two good results due to the judged fault of Hamilton.