2021 Italian Grand Prix - Monza, Sep 10 - 12

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Re: 2021 Italian Grand Prix - Monza, Sep 10 - 12

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djones wrote:
12 Sep 2021, 17:28
Restomaniac wrote:
12 Sep 2021, 17:24
djones wrote:
12 Sep 2021, 17:20


In this situation, especially after now being on mediums he could have overtaken easily in the laps after. Instead, he chose to fight a fight where he could only lose. Them both not finishing is a dream result for Max as Hamilton was on for an easy win.
So Hamilton has to do it everytime then. How completely balanced if you. 🤷‍♂️

By not letting him past this time he has a net loss in the championship in a race he could have easily won. It really is that simple.
So it’s everytime Verstappen wants a place then. Gotcha. 🤦‍♂️

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FIA has dug themselves a whole here and won't be able to get out of it easily. They have allowed this kind of squezeeing on multiple occasions this season (Imola, Barcelona, Protugal to name a ferw). I see these two colliding every time Max is on the outside because, unlike Hamilton, he wouldn't back out of it.

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Re: 2021 Italian Grand Prix - Monza, Sep 10 - 12

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This situation is quite similar to Austria 2016 when Rosberg and Hamilton tangled

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JordanMugen wrote:
12 Sep 2021, 17:21
NathanOlder wrote:
12 Sep 2021, 17:20
Yes, after Silverstone it was clear that Lewis is not allowed to stand up to Max, he must allow MAx to push him around. If he doesnt , then Lewis must be penalised.
Hamilton was penalised and at fault for that crash. Fair racing is about not causing at fault incidents!

Just as Verstappen would not see Hamilton as a fair racer, neither would Albon. Albon lost two good results due to the judged fault of Hamilton. :|
Hamilton was penalised for his incidents with Albon, and he was very vocal in accepting that he messed up in Brazil. Will Max ever accept blame or is it always a case of "we have to work together"? :wink:
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Re: 2021 Italian Grand Prix - Monza, Sep 10 - 12

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To me, that looks like 100% Verstappen's fault

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Re: 2021 Italian Grand Prix - Monza, Sep 10 - 12

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I just rewatched it, Hamilton came across very aggressively in the braking zone, he should get a penalty for that.

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Re: 2021 Italian Grand Prix - Monza, Sep 10 - 12

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I think Lewis is finding out that there is more to life than running Nico Rosberg out of road.

I don't think this like Silverstone warrants any penalties but dare I say that the reigning world champion is to blame more for both crashes.
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Re: 2021 Italian Grand Prix - Monza, Sep 10 - 12

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RonMexico wrote:
12 Sep 2021, 17:39
This situation is quite similar to Austria 2016 when Rosberg and Hamilton tangled
You mean When Rosberg simply didn't turn in to the corner and tried to push Hamilton straight on and off track?

How is it similar to that? :?
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What I find interesting is that Hamilton did not take the apex of turn 2 in the way Norris ahead of them took it, in fact, it doesn't look like he was trying to hit it, which probably gave the impression to Verstappen he was going to open the corner up more but then he didnt and there wasn't enough space for Verstappen

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isullivan wrote:
12 Sep 2021, 17:41
I just rewatched it, Hamilton came across very aggressively in the braking zone, he should get a penalty for that.
He left sufficient space. All above board there.
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Re: 2021 Italian Grand Prix - Monza, Sep 10 - 12

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Is there an investigation into the crash?

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I cannot believe what I am reading. For the first time, BOTH Marko and Horner says it was a racing indicent when Max is involved.

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Schuttelberg wrote:
12 Sep 2021, 17:41
I think Lewis is finding out that there is more to life than running Nico Rosberg out of road.

I don't think this like Silverstone warrants any penalties but dare I say that the reigning world champion is to blame more for both crashes.
Still hurt with HAM's thrashing of VET ;). You used to be one of the objective posters. Seems hate consumed you also.
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Is there any news, how many emails have Toto sent?

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Schuttelberg wrote:
12 Sep 2021, 17:41
I think Lewis is finding out that there is more to life than running Nico Rosberg out of road.

I don't think this like Silverstone warrants any penalties but dare I say that the reigning world champion is to blame more for both crashes.
Hamilton did get a 10 second penalty at Silverstone, but I feel like that was more because one of the cars came out of that collision. I see this one as swaying more to Verstappen's fault because he could have pulled out but I don't think there will be penalties because both cars crashed out.