2021 Italian Grand Prix - Monza, Sep 10 - 12

[Unf]

Hamilton missed the T1 apex by some margin.

Interesting - each time they crash each other it's start with Hamilton somehow missing apex...

[isullivan]

Start of the braking zone, Lewis proceeds to go across 80% of the track.

Starting to turn for the corner

If that's not moving under braking idk what is, yes it was not sudden but Max could as easily hit him there to the same outcome.

[Michelangelo]

Fault is a bit more on the Max side but I'd call it a racing incident as a whole. More importantly, it was nice to see Lewis fine with a wheel on top of his head, thanks to halo.

[NathanOlder]

Is there any news, how many emails have Toto sent?

33 apparently during the race. 44 since the race, 77 in total.

[Roo]

FIA Regulations
3.18.12.Blue lights at the Pit Lane exit: a fast Vehicle on the Track must be let
through

Blue flag for Lewis....

Do you think if this was true for this accident Horner wouldn't be all over it like a slug..

[Gillian]

Hamilton missed the T1 apex by some margin. Maybe he out-braked himself on cold tires or to squeeze Verstappen, or both.
https://i.postimg.cc/SQ9V0Fd1/4-CB7-AE ... 06-EEF.png

Verstappen was alongside. Not ahead, but definitely alongside. I don’t think anyone can argue otherwise.
https://i.postimg.cc/43FwGXjq/E1-ACD78 ... 017288.png

By running wide at T1, Hamilton did not leave enough space to navigate T2. But Verstappen always had at least 2 wheels on track. This is not a Japan 2018 situation as some people were suggesting.
https://i.postimg.cc/5NMgb7k4/910-F02- ... B49128.png

Neither driver is predominantly at fault, so it’s a racing incident.

Totally agree. They needed maybe 5 to 10 cm more room to not hit that curb and they would have made it through together. It was just very unlucky and both made decision not to yield. Racing incident with crazy result. It happens, move on.

Happy for McLaren!

[MtthsMlw]

What a great idea the HALO was

[e30ernest]

Start of the braking zone, Lewis proceeds to go across 80% of the track.
https://imgur.com/cEVZ9de.png
Starting to turn for the corner
https://imgur.com/WsshuAL.png
If that's not moving under braking idk what is, yes it was not sudden but Max could as easily hit him there to the same outcome.

That move was fine. You can see from your own photos that there was enough space for Max up to that point. Lewis moving over was him moving over closer to the racing line as he is entitled to do.

If you want to see real moving under braking in this same circuit, you can see it at 3:29 of this video:

[Nathanael F1]

Start of the braking zone, Lewis proceeds to go across 80% of the track.
https://imgur.com/cEVZ9de.png
Starting to turn for the corner
https://imgur.com/WsshuAL.png
If that's not moving under braking idk what is, yes it was not sudden but Max could as easily hit him there to the same outcome.

Lewis definitely did move under braking.

[Roo]

Start of the braking zone, Lewis proceeds to go across 80% of the track.
https://imgur.com/cEVZ9de.png
Starting to turn for the corner
https://imgur.com/WsshuAL.png
If that's not moving under braking idk what is, yes it was not sudden but Max could as easily hit him there to the same outcome.

Thanks for this, it's clear going into the corner Max was behind. He shouldnt have been there.

[e30ernest]

What a great idea the HALO was
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E_GKyQ1X0AA ... name=large

Holy cow.... Wow....

The Halo definitely did its job there. Still they'll have to look into better ways of preventing a wheel from intruding into the cockpit like that.

[BlueCheetah66]

If a team decided to replace an entire engine they automatically are going to the back of the grid. If you do that at the same race you had a grid penalty, you would effectively be nullifying the grid penalty. The FIA isn't going to allow that they will give you the grid penalty at the next race then.

Is there a precedent for that situation or a specific rule?

Not specifically related to engines but their is this in the sporting rules.

47.3

If any of the four (4) penalties above are imposed upon a driver, and that driver is unable to
serve the penalty due to retirement from the sprint qualifying session or the race, the stewards
may impose a grid place penalty on the driver at his next race Even

basically if you get penalized, the fia is going to make sure you feel the pain of it.

That rule is for if for example, at Silverstone when Hamilton had a 10 second penalty, he instead retired, they are allowed to apply a grid penalty at the next race. If the fia give a grid penalty to Verstappen, I'm pretty sure he is still allowed to take penalties for engines

[Nathanael F1]

What a great idea the HALO was
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E_GKyQ1X0AA ... name=large

Yikes. Hamilton at fault, Verstappen at fault, or racing incident. We wouldn’t be talking about that if this happened in 2017 or before.

[zeph]

Verstappen's sense of entitlement grows every time he isn't penalized for stuff like this.

Why would he be penalized for racing?

Please, the corner was Hamilton's.

[Shrieker]

What a great idea the HALO was
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E_GKyQ1X0AA ... name=large

Holy fx#{k.

I can't help but think what would've happened, if it was one of the taller drivers. Russell for example. His helmet was almost level with the air intake, when he raced in the merc last season...