McLaren's Daniel Ricciardo has won the Italian Grand Prix ahead of team mate Lando Norris. As both title contenders again clashed and retired from the race, Valtteri Bottas had a brilliant recovery to finish third after starting from the back of the pack.
Switch the positions. Put Lewis into Max's car, and Max's into Lewis. Does Lewis make the corner and come out alongside Max? Heeeeellls No!foxmulder_ms wrote: ↑12 Sep 2021, 17:32Vest diehards, if you think this is anything but Vest aggression then you have zero respect from me and you just have blind love/hate:
Indeed so. That would have been much more load applied to the head and thus the neck "back in the day". Also, the halo helped to stop the edge of Max's floor coming across the cockpit.MtthsMlw wrote: ↑12 Sep 2021, 17:58What a great idea the HALO was
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E_GKyQ1X0AA ... name=large
JordanMugen wrote: ↑12 Sep 2021, 17:33That's very selective.foxmulder_ms wrote: ↑12 Sep 2021, 17:32Vest diehards, if you think this is anything but Vest aggression then you have zero respect from me and you just have blind love/hate:
https://i.postimg.cc/qRpyh2Db/E-GC-Ha-XMAIs-IDn.jpg
The later frame shows HAM not leaving enough space to the apex, barely 10 inches, let alone a car's width.
Here are two later frames:
https://i.imgur.com/5BD4vke.png
Not at all. That was the same with Perez vs Leclerc, and it was Perez who was penalised for cutting the corner and gaining an advantage, not Leclerc.NathanOlder wrote: ↑12 Sep 2021, 18:09Why was Max not penalised for Tamburello or Della Roggia ? He drove Lewis off the track. Please try and answer this without the usual biased bs.
It still hit Lewis on the head which is not good so these need developing further, maybe add more height because if that happens to George (one of the taller drivers) it could be death right there.MtthsMlw wrote: ↑12 Sep 2021, 17:58What a great idea the HALO was
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E_GKyQ1X0AA ... name=large
Roughly, Force = Weight x Speed. These heaviest cars in history strike things with 150%(ish) more force now than 2006.piast9 wrote: ↑12 Sep 2021, 18:08What worries me is that we have had at least two serious accidents (Grossjean and Hamilton) recently in which the halo saved drivers health and possibly even lives. Something has changed that such severe accidents happen. Maybe the cars are too powerful after all...e30ernest wrote: ↑12 Sep 2021, 18:00Holy cow.... Wow....MtthsMlw wrote: ↑12 Sep 2021, 17:58What a great idea the HALO was
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E_GKyQ1X0AA ... name=large
The Halo definitely did its job there. Still they'll have to look into better ways of preventing a wheel from intruding into the cockpit like that.
When the inside car is ahead on braking, he is entitled to the racing line. If you don't agree with that, tell me why Verstappen was able to squeeze Hamilton off track at Roggia in Turn 1 (note: Verstappen was on the inside, and ahead under braking)?
That is true.matt_b wrote: ↑12 Sep 2021, 18:13It still hit Lewis on the head which is not good so these need developing further, maybe add more height because if that happens to George (one of the taller drivers) it could be death right there.MtthsMlw wrote: ↑12 Sep 2021, 17:58What a great idea the HALO was
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E_GKyQ1X0AA ... name=large
I was going to comment the same. Amazing that a few years ago there was a discussion of it was necessary. Now we see it preventing several severe injuries, or worse, per year.piast9 wrote: ↑12 Sep 2021, 18:08What worries me is that we have had at least two serious accidents (Grossjean and Hamilton) recently in which the halo saved drivers health and possibly even lives. Something has changed that such severe accidents happen. Maybe the cars are too powerful after all...e30ernest wrote: ↑12 Sep 2021, 18:00Holy cow.... Wow....MtthsMlw wrote: ↑12 Sep 2021, 17:58What a great idea the HALO was
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E_GKyQ1X0AA ... name=large
The Halo definitely did its job there. Still they'll have to look into better ways of preventing a wheel from intruding into the cockpit like that.
Whats wrong in the first pic? Hes well alongside, and should expect a cars width, 100%...foxmulder_ms wrote: ↑12 Sep 2021, 18:15https://i.postimg.cc/qRpyh2Db/E-GC-Ha-XMAIs-IDn.jpg
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https://i.postimg.cc/y8Gzgh1V/E-GKy-Q1-X0-AAAHmo.jpg
= RACE BAN
That's just disturbing. This was the same guy screaming how he was nearly killed and screaming for a race ban. Now he causes a collision, heavily suggesting it was intentional, literally drove over someones head while doing so, and then acts like nothing is wrong. If anything, this does sound like some very reasonable arguments for a race ban.El Scorchio wrote: ↑12 Sep 2021, 18:10Its that 'That's what you get.' comment from Verstappen. Yield to me or we will crash.
Interesting that he didn't even look back to see if Hamilton was hurt when walking off after parking his car on hid head. So much for all that stuff about showing compassion...
The whole thing is slightly chilling .
